What, no argument? That’s OK, I didn’t really expect one. Thanks for the jibber jabber. 💩 💩
A challenge to the "measurement" camp
I’ve watched some of his video and I actually agree on some of what he said,
but he seems too confident on his insistence on measurement. For those
who expound on the merits of blind test and measurement, why not turn
the table upside down?
Why not do a blind test of measurement? That is I will supply all the measurement
you want, can you tell me which is a better product?
For example, if I have a set of cable, and a set of measurement for each
individual cable, can you tell me which is the best cable based on measurement
alone? I will supply all the measurement you want.
After all, that is what you’re after right? Objective result and not subjective
listening test.
Fast forward to 8:15 mark where he keeps ranting about listening test
without measurement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=katmUM-Xelw
By the way, is he getting paid by Belden? Because he keeps talking about it
and how well it measures. I've had some BlueJean cables and they can easily
bettered by some decent cables.
but he seems too confident on his insistence on measurement. For those
who expound on the merits of blind test and measurement, why not turn
the table upside down?
Why not do a blind test of measurement? That is I will supply all the measurement
you want, can you tell me which is a better product?
For example, if I have a set of cable, and a set of measurement for each
individual cable, can you tell me which is the best cable based on measurement
alone? I will supply all the measurement you want.
After all, that is what you’re after right? Objective result and not subjective
listening test.
Fast forward to 8:15 mark where he keeps ranting about listening test
without measurement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=katmUM-Xelw
By the way, is he getting paid by Belden? Because he keeps talking about it
and how well it measures. I've had some BlueJean cables and they can easily
bettered by some decent cables.
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roberttdid His "theory" of skin effect at the frequency where he points it out is almost definitely wrong. W.R.T. inductance, changing, again, unlikely to be the effect of a simple cable. It is pretty much a given there are additional elements in this cable. >>>>>>Even more disturbing perhaps, the signal in audio systems has no frequencies at all. Not in the power cord, not in audio interconnects, not in digital cables, not in wires, not in fuses, not in speaker cables. Voltage and current are frequency independent. It’s Nowheresville! 🤗 |
djines51 Yes, I know. That’s another observation that shows Einstein was right. I’m not following are you saying Einstein can never be proven wrong? Newton’s laws work at small distances so he’s right but not at large distances so he’s also wrong. Might be Einstein turns out the same way I have no idea, I’m not smart enough to figure it all out. >>>>I just got through saying Einstein didn’t believe in black holes but we know they exist. He also was wrong about quantum mechanics. That’s the way it goes sometimes. |
Gravitational time dilation has been experimentally measured using atomic clocks on airplanes. The clocks aboard the airplanes were slightly faster than atomic clocks on the ground. The effect is significant enough that the Global Positioning System’s GPS satellites need to have their clocks corrected. |
To a distant observer 👀 clocks ⏰ near a black hole would appear to tick more slowly than clocks ⏰ further away from the black hole. Due to this effect, known as gravitational time dilation, an object falling into a black hole appears to slow as it approaches the event horizon, taking an infinite time to reach it. This is not theoretical, gentle readers. Light cannot escape from a black hole, not because of the extreme gravity of the black hole, light has no mass, but because spacetime is so curved/contorted in proximity to the black hole the path light takes bends back on itself. The volume of space where spacetime is distorted extends waaay beyond the actual black hole, out to the event horizon and beyond, the black hole itself is tiny, perhaps the size of a grapefruit for a small black hole. |
rja May I suggest you all start reading the "Audio Science Review" site? You will find that measurements are everything, nothing else matters. >>>>Thanks for the warning! ⚠️ |
It’s actually like placing a bowling ball on a mattress that has a couple baseballs on it already. The mass of the heavy bowling ball pushes down the mattress causing the baseballs to slide down towards the bowling ball. Gravity is the curvature/distortion of Spacetime produced by mass, more evident when the mass is very heavy. Light from distant stars and galaxies appears to be bent by massive objects like the sun but it’s really the curvature of spacetime around the sun that makes it appear that way. |
Audio is a subjective hobby. Sure there are obviously some things that need to be measured, but you can’t measure soundstage height, air, warmth, naturalness, liquid-ness, realism, presence, instrument separation or closeness to the original recording. The sound that arrives at the listeners ears is - after all is said and done - what matters most and it’s the least measurable. Yes, I know what you’re thinking, but what about frequency response? |
Wrong again, Mr. Smarty Pants 👖 Gravity is spacetime. There is a force associated with gravity I.e., F=ma as I already said. That’s why time can’t exist without mass. You’re still stuck back in the 1800s. roberttdid/roberttcan whoever - You have trouble getting quotes right and posting on the right thread, don’t you? |
phcollie I think it is a waste of time and effort explaining to someone that they are wrong. >>>>>People can be so stubborn. 😬 |