A cartridge with more bite, please and thank you


My Hana SL is a little soft sounding for the Linn LP12/Cirkus/Mober supchassis/Alphason Xenon MCS and I'm looking for some direction and insight. My phono preamp is a Supratek Syrah.

Thinking about Ortofon Cadenza Bronze, ZYX Ultima 100 and Soundsmith Paua. Anybody out there compare these? Heard any of them on a similar set up? Or, have other recommendation that would mate well?

 

I see a lot Ortofon recommendations for Alphason, the ZYX reviews well and Soundsmith is right down the river - I've enjoyed their lower models and like the rebuild concept and pricing. That said, best sound is best sound!

Oh, I'm also open to having the Alphason rewired - I'm not sure that's the biggest priority right now, but it's tempting...

Muchas gracias and happy holidays!

budburma

Showing 4 responses by pindac

As there is a Price $1400 - $4000 being considered for a Cart'.

It would be wise to get out and receive a few demonstrations, 'more bite' is a very personal description of a presentation. The use of the Term conjures up 'in my thoughts' that a Cart' is required with a discernable trait, and as it is 'bite' and not 'kick', I am leaning towards the Upper Most Frequencies being prominent during a replay.

To get an extremely prominent Upper Frequency, this can be achieved at a fairer outlay than budgeted for.

The Ortofon Quintet Black will comfortably fit the role. Used Naked it will offer even more toward the perception the upper frequencies being prominent.

If the Cart', 'hits a home run for you' there is many hours of pleasure to be had before the next performance level is to be achieved.

One For The Future                                                                                               The Cart' is with Aucurum Coils ( The Wire of their TOTR Models ) this is a very good place for a Ortofon Cart' to take on the role as a Donor Cart'.                        The Cart' can have Boron or even better Beryllium Armature added and a Styli of Choice. An Ogura Vital would work exceptionally well if attempting to maintain the original presentation, but in a much more refined way. If a little richness is desired, (increased bass presence) the FGS Styli would be an interesting option.

Keep in mind the Naked Usage as a Option, as it will allow for a perception of increased Upper Frequency.

'How much Fat one wants trimmed of their Cut' is another case where 'each to their own' is the best practice.    

       

A Shelter 7000 does not have 'Bite' in any arm or supporting ancillary.

It will deliver a Rich Believable Tone, played through the Brightest SS Phon, with Silver Wire throughout the Signal Path. 

The Cadenza Bronze is Cart' to present with a Richer Tone as an alternative to the Siblings in the Range.

Are you sure you do not want a Cart' with a bottom end that is the noticeable trait. 'Mud on the Wellies', the amount of Trudge to bare, will be another case where 'each to their own' is the best practice.

There are endless Cart's able to present with this trait being detectable, the options for a Shortlist can be tenfold, in comparison to a Lean, Transparent, Projected Mid - Upper Mid Trait.       

Within my HiFi Group, there are periodically dedicated demonstrations of a Cart'.

The Ortofon Kontrapunkt B (Kb) is the Cart' used across a broad amount of users within the Group, and is the main spare belonging to the larger proportion of members.

The Kb' is used to compare other Carts' to as it is with attractive traits, but does not push too far with any frequency, Neutral and Transparent would be a reasonable description.

A Cart' recently demonstrated in a OL Illustrious Arm, is the Sumiko Pearwood with the Ultrafine Boron Armature and Ogura Styli.

To myself, these two materials being selected are the obvious choices to counteract the Rich Tones that can manifest from a usage of a Wood Body.

There is the choice of Magnet, that has an impact, as well the additional Aluminium used to create the Body.

This Cart' is seemingly quite capable of delivering the Rich Tone that the Japanese Designs are renowned for. 

It will be a long search to find the Richness of Tone Trait with this Cart',                    Deep Precise Bass, with a Truthful Tone to all frequencies, is the attraction that will be locked onto before any analysis is used to discover where the Rich Tone is manifesting.

It really does present in a manner that is worthy of a mention, my evaluation is that Sumiko have got much of their description on the money, it would have been more accurate if they come away from the use of 'Rich', as this is the known Japanese Trait, which this model in 'Mk II' version has detached from. 

  

My Experiences are through visiting 'Gon', is that many items being considered by an OP are not ones I have a familiarity with, hence I don't make a suggestion for an item to be considered. Usually just an account of a usage of a device that has had a positive impression through usage, and a offer of support a OP to inform them there is a avenue worth pursuing.

The OP in this Thread has now described where they are with their unique preference for a presentation produced by a Cart', and the traits described, are as said previously to be found in a Selection of Cart's that are Tenfold on a list in comparison to Lean and Transparent as a description of a trait.

The OP's Phon' is valve based and it is hard to attain which level of Richness this is already able to depart into the presentation, if a SUT were to be used as well at some point, this will definitely add a Richness of Tone.

The OP is starting with a Rich Tone, it can easily be built on to become overbearing and starve other frequencies, that are said to be attractive. 

The Sumiko Suggested is one for the OP's list, if a hint of Richness being presented is to be detected.

If going down the Ortofon Route, as in the above the original PW-Windfeld is offering a presence Bass > Lower/Upper Mid, that is standout noticeable. When compared to other Ortofon's that are Trickle Down Technology Cart's as a follow on to the Windfeld, the  PW can be claimed to have a hint of Richness.

The presence of Bass and its impact on other frequencies is the deciding factor.      The usual outcome of a demonstration will reveal, the more Bass that is presented, is the frequency responsible for masking the upper frequencies.

I don't do A subdued presence of a Upper and Mid's for the sake of prominent Bass Note.

I would not rush in to a Purchase, I would get out and receive a few demonstrations of a few Carts' of interest. A home Demo' is even better, but attaining one can be met with difficulty.

In general forum members are willing to offer an assistance, but they are much more willing to remind one of where there are mistakes made. If a Cart' has really impressed in one System, and has not delivered the same experience in the home system, the learning and its value are already initiated, the path to discovering a further change of a device will be looming.

Buying Blind, on the assumption that the correct choice is being made, will be the most precarious way to part with up to $4000.