$6-7k to Spend on Turntable

Dear Larry: +++++ " heard favorable comments about the Teres over the SME 20 (but I can't provide and detail or corroboration). " +++++

With my respect to you, this " rumor " is an irresponsible one that does not help to Teres or anyone and do harm to any including SME.

I have respect for every audio item manufacturer ( including Teres or ZYX. The problem that these does not be my " cup of tea " does not means that I don't respect them for what they do. ) but especially to SME: the skillfull, know-how, technology, quality building, honest designs, etc... are unsurpassed or evenn for any one in the audio industry.
I know that some people like other manufacturer products over the SME ones and that is ok. But when some one post something like you do it is better to have " the hairs in hand " before do that and you don't have it.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

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Raul,
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I was simply stating that I could not remember who had told me that they preferred the Teres over the SME 20. I was open and not castigating the SME 20 which I have never heard.
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When I hear something in my own system, I make that known in my postings.
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Me saying that a few people had told me that they preferred a Teres table over and SME 20 is true and that's that. The fact that you have a problem with that is your problem.
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If I had not disclosed up front that I was sharing someone else's opinion and stated that the Teres is superior to the SME 20, that would be unethical and dishonest. But, that is not what I did.
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Please do not respond to me further. I have no interest in getting into another one of your b.s. arguements that go no where.
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Well gang, I pulled the trigger today. I purchased an SME 20/2 from a fellow audiogon member this evening.

I have done more reading on turntables the last couple of days than I have in years. Most of it spurred by your suggestions. I know many of you had recommended the Teres decks. I did send Chris Brady an email to which he replied. These are probably excellent decks just as many of you have said. However, I can't get one locally, and I am not inclined to wait a long period for one to be produced for me.

Much of the information you provided I used to wade through the decks available on Audiogon. This afternoon an SME 20/2 showed up, which fit my requirements. I can also pick up the deck locally. As I have hinted, I'm not much of an equipment junkie, but buying used does allow me the option of selling later without taking a bath if for some reason the sound isn't what I was expecting. However, given my experience with my SME IV tonearm. I doubt I will be disappointed.

In then end, there was no way I could follow everyone's suggestions, but I valued all your input and appreciate your insights.

Thanks again for the help!

Ken

Larry: Please, don't bad feelings: try to change a little your attitude about me.

+++++ " The fact that you have a problem with that is your problem. " +++++

My think is that that subject is an Audiogon forum problem: +++++ " I was simply stating that I could not remember who had told me that they preferred the Teres over the SME 20. " +++++

So, you can't corroborate that statement and this is only a " irresponsable rumor ", that do not help to anyone in this forum and in the audio industry. Remember that in this forum always come ( welcome a board ) new peoples, ones with heavy experience but many others don't.

When I give my opinion I always try to do with facts that I can corroborate and must of the time I try not to " bring " other people opinion that I can't corroborate.

Everyday I receive e-mails from the Audiogon forum peoples to comment on differents subjects and try not to use those info.

You already know my ZYX cartridge opinion. I can tell you the next episode that happens a few months ago about:

- +++++ " Subject: Audiogon listing: Van Den Hul Colibri XGP .45 mv " +++++

This classified ad take my attention because this man put on sale his Colibri doing an upgrade to top ZYX.

I send him an e-mail:

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> Dear friend: If you really prefer the ZYX over the Colibri that's mean

> that something is wrong ( mismatch ) in your audio system. Regards. " +++++

This was his answer: +++++ " I am not sure what you mean by mismatch. The system is very straight forward Atmasphere amp and pre (with excellent nos tubes), walker tt, and wilson speakers. I think this system should be a very revealing system and able to judge cartridges well. I would be glad to hear what your suggestion is to make the colibri work better. I purchased the colibri on the recommendation of a person who also owns a linear tone arm , rockport tt. I figured if it worked well on his it would on mine. Hope you can find time to further explain your comments. " +++++

I do that and the answer was: +++++ " The colibri is very fast and I would lean the other way that it is not
emotionally envolving. I feel that it is very dry similar to the clearaudio
cartridges. The bass extension is with out a doubt better with the zyx to
the point where you hear unexpected bass response where with other
cartridges you would have missed. " +++++

I insist and give him all my advise to reach the top quality that the Colobri can, fortunatelly he do that and this was their answer:

+++++ " I opened the new colibri and put it on my walker, with out a doubt it is a
better cartridge than the zyx. Point, my first colibri was not working
correctly. I with drew the colibri from audiogon and expect it
to stay on the walker for some time. Detailed with out being harsh, and wow
what a big sound stage, imaging plus plus. Thanks for the push to try the
new colibri. " +++++

This is only one example of info that I have and that I never used when I post about the ZYX or anyone else. Why I don't do that: because I like to " work " with facts where I have control and the " hairs on hand " and don't cause misunderstood on other Audiogon members.

Larry, I repeat no bad feelings at all. I have great respect for you and for anyone else ( including Teres/ZYX ) here and every where.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Iflyfisher: Well, what does it sound like? Congrats on your SME 20!