300B or 2a3 SET Class A for Heretic Model A?


Wondering which one would be the perfect match/magical integrated? 100db is more than enough to drive almost everything.

Between these: Mastersound Compact 300B, Trafomatic Evolution Two, Robson Acoustic 300B Masterpiece,  WE91E or even Luxman SQ-N150.

Thanks in advance!

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Showing 5 responses by yaluaka

It always bothers me when some asks about a lower power tube amp and someone chimes in with, get a higher powered amp. To me if you want a 300b, 2A3 or 45 amp get one. I have all three. I listen to music all day and at good volume and one room is 1400 square feet. These amps are the best, and at the same time there is a culture around them. The people who espouse the more power mantra are not part of that culture and are irrelevant if you really want a low powered tube amp that’s about sweetness and musicality and tactile-ness. And I’m sure many people feel they have this with their un-low powered tube amp set up. Good for you. But what I'm talking about is not what everyone wants and that’s totally fine.  It would be silly to want a historic style 300b amp and its ilk and not at least have the experience that got you curious about one in the first place. It’s a hobby, try things doesn't really help to ask questions. Just experiment and sell on what you don’t like. It will still be cheaper than golf or wine. There are no right answers and crazy little accurate information. Everything in this world is personal. 

Again don’t listen to anyone here, me included😂

With all due respect to others here, you don’t need a higher power amp, and a 2A3 amp is or is not better then a 300b, there is no such thing in this world as better. Every time you change your speakers or your amp, you’ll have to decide if you hit on the right equation. If you didn’t hit on the right equation it’s not the amps fault, it’s just that situation. I had a 45 amp that didn’t sound good with the Altec's I had, didn’t sound good with Tannoys, and I just put it aside and one day tried it with some speakers I was using at work and bingo. Again it’s a culture.  It’s a tremendous fun little corner of the high fi world. And if you get into deep enough you’ll find yourself looking for copies of Sound Practices magazine. 

Hey Atam,

 

you’re entirely right, I have push pull amps too and love them. But that’s not my point. The 300b/2A3/45/50 tube world is a culture unto itself. And I find that huge fun to be a part of. Not only do they (or I should say, they can) sound great, but it’s a very interesting esoteric part of this hobby that’s great fun to learn about, historically both from hifis inception and more recently with Japanese and other Asian cultural approach’s to this era of equipment design. 

“It’s really about SETs being a musical instrument rather than a music reproducer. Fun, but it’s not at all accurate to the recording. That profound ever-lovin' 2nd harmonic gets a richness that isn't part of the original recording; that is why I say 'musical instrument'.”
 

To me this is also a specious point, the idea of accuracy in recorded reproduction. I’m looking for something I  like. I don’t want a stereo limited by only sounding good with any particular music or record label. It’s not about accuracy, to me accuracy is anti musical. I want the music I listen to- to be engaging. Accurate is irrelevant, in fact I don’t think it exists. Perhaps an extreme view point. You get into set amps because you want to experience the music not judge the recording. 

Again I feel you are missing my point. I am assuming you make amps, funnily enough I make records. So what I care about is musical engagement, this really has nothing to do with accuracy. Why I feel accuracy is anti musical is because you are focused on accuracy. That is not where I am focused. If the amp is accurate and I like the way it sounds great. If it's not accurate (I still really do not believe in this term but I'll use it for this discussion) and I like the way it sounds great as well. The accuracy part is the least of my worries, and for me doesn't enter into the discussion. Just the fact you posit - most single ended triode amps (SET) are not accurate - right then then and there tells me you are not focused on what is important to me, which is how the music sounds. I've learned through making records that distortion is often a musical attribute. I know people don't feel that is the case in the hifi world, but try to get an Al Jackson on Hi Records drum sound without it.

And as for me being exposed to to many amusical amps, I have actually instead been exposed to too many amusical audio fans 😂