24 feet DIN to XLR phono cable for Graham Phantom?


Would the conexion be considered 'balanced'? I need a 24 feet run. And finallly, any of you have experience with a similar cable?

Thanks
jbuenech

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Atmasphere, you got it right. Main reason for this is to move the turntable away from my electrostatic speakers. I guess I will minimize vibration and also will remove the bulk of a very big turntable, acrilic case included, from between the speakers, therefore improving sound image.

My phono pre accepts XLR inputs. I do not have a pre-power combo, instead I've got a lovely integrated that cannot be splited into two :-).

My cartridge is an Ortofon A90 and the phono pre is an allnic H3000. I don't know what you mean by "if the preamp accepts the phono signal differentially". Could you please extend a little bit.

Thanks to all for your answers.
Sarcher30, you are right. When I tried with a shorter cable I found out that XLR was the phono pre output, not the input. As my integrated amp does not have Balanced inputs, my only option is to put the turntable between the plane of the speakers, as Lewm suggests.

Thanks to all of you for your contributions¡
Dear Lewm, I have tried your suggestion and it has brought a big improvement to the sound image and, surprisingly, to the tonal balance, now with less enphasis on the higher frequencies. I guess the turntable huge acrilic case was acting as a resonance box.
Unfortunately my wife is not so happy because I have brought the music rack (double width and quite high) also 5 feet into the room to be aligned to the speakers plane and this is our living room as well :-). So far I got permision, so lets enjoy it.
If in the future I evolve to a Pre-Power combo I'll be able to move the phono pre together with the turntable to a side space, following the recommendations to other posters.

Thanks to all of you guys!
Atmasphere, the Allnic has balanced outputs, but my integrated amp does not have balanced inputs. It only handles Unbalanced.
Jimmytrk,

Your post is fully within the topic.

I believe that if one end of a XLR wire is converted to RCA, it behaves as an unbalanced connection. To get the benefits of a balanced connection all components in the chain must be balanced.
I have googled and found some conversion boxes that do what you suggest. With one of these boxes I could put turntable and phono pre close to each other, run a long balanced cable to the conversion box and a short RCA cable from the box to the integrated amp.

Problem is:
1- conversion boxes quality seem to be below the quality of my other components (at least if price is a good indicator of quality). I fear to decrease overall sound quality
2- I'm very happy with the sound after having located my equipment in the plane of the speakers and therefore not willing to spend much money in relocating

I must say that I have found amazing the power of collaboration of this group and the number of valid alternatives and opinions I've got!
Dear L,

My first question was about feasibility of using long balanced cables to connect my arm to the phono pre. My intention was to separe the TT from the rest of the equipment, as it is the most prominent, disruptive piece within my music rack and was clearly interfering with the back wave of my electrostats. I was asuming that my phono pre had XLR inputs. Through the postings I realized that what it actually has is a XLR output but only RCA inputs (ooops!).

Your suggestion about positioning the rack right between the plane of the speakers worked so well that I considere I have solved my problem.

I cannot separate phono pre and integrated amp without using the conversion box because the amp does not have XLR inputs to match the phono pre XLR output.

I could still move the TT and phono pre away from the rest of the equipment using the conversion box mentioned in latest posting, but I'll skip it as I'm happy with what I have now.

Hope this clarifies.