2-Way Advice: Magico S1,YG Carmal,Diablo Utopia

Thanks guys - I actually have been thinking of the Perspectives but was afraid they would no be as refined. as the YG/Magico/SF. I have heard everything I can that's near me so anything else anyone could add would be great. I would LOVE to buy bigger Magico's if I had the money. I read the S1 is nicer than the V2. This is a tough one - please all thoughts and idea's are welcomed and appreciated. Love my speakers but moved to a different home and in much different room and would like to nail this to get off the merry go round...

Lot of Raidho recommendations. Wish they wern't out of my range.

Tom_hankins

Great info that's really what I was hoping to hear someone that heard them all.

Thank so much!

Its pretty much the consensus it seems that Caramels are the best among this group. In fairness they are a good amount more new but their used prices do seem pretty good and its great to know that later they can be more unproved by adding quality subs. I was told the new Sonus Faber are much more neutral sounding and are lot more the like the S1, Focal, Caramel camp. Has anyone heard the new Sonus Faber Guameri Evolution. I spoke to a dealer a couple states over and he made me a great offer with my trades. Do you guys think the new SF sound is more neutral and the new model is good option in this class. Prob not as neutral as the magico or YG but curious what you think. I am told they are much more open and resolving and neutral and have a lot better bass.

Do you think these are as good or maybe better than the Caramel. They would be more money but also I could imvolve some trades which is great... Thasnk

Raks

If you like the Olympia I better than the Wilson Duette that's impressive. The Wilson's a rugged little 2-way. Well no Wilson is little but that's a good speaker and I have heard it. The only Wilson in its day to use a fabric tweeter. That Focal tweeter was just too hot for me. I owned W/P 6&7 and Sophia 2 grew tiered of the W/P's and ended up despising the S2. Seems like they are all trying to meet in the middle. The new Wilson's are sounding prettier and more like the Sonus Faber and the new SF are more neutral and closer to Wilson's and the like toward the middle. I guess the question is which one of these 2-ways nails the middle the best. Seems that maybe the Caramel here but if the Olympia sounds that nice the Evolution maybe killer. New owners and designers at SF and they are trying to make their speakers much less a pretty speaker and much more a serious while holding onto a scotch of that prettiness glad to hear how nice the Olympia's. are because the Evo could be killer. wish they were closer to me so i could hear them. they made me a nice because taking multiple trades...

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Nada Yet - kinda leaning toward YG Caramel or Sonus Faber Guarneri Evolution. The dealer offered me the same deal as the Sonus Faber Guarneri Evolution on the Sonus Faber Eclipse SE with my trades. He said the updated SE model uses the same tweeter as the much more expensive Stradivari and they are more speaker than the
EVO. Think he did it to try and make a deal with me on either vs going my another route which I appreciate. The Eclipse cost a lot more retail and I am told they are great but my love for the 2-ways has my trying stay in that lane of possible but want to not totally be unopen minded. Heck, was even thinking of the new monster JBL's that retail for $40k but thats prob a stretch but I was curious about them. Anyone know anything about the more expensive SF Eclipse its seems like it may be a better deal on an older but updated design. I wasn't going to go Sonus Faber because of their non neutral sound but everyone says forget that their new designs are much - much different and much - much more neutral and excellent speakers not be over looked because of reputation of older speakers that were too romantic.

I am getting close but if anyone knows about the SF's I would appreciate it love to hear more about their modern changes and what folks think of them?

Thanks

I had thought a bit about the Tannoy but never heard them. These Sterling are a available for great prices. Are they really at the same level as Sonus, YG, Magico, Focal and the like? I love idea of the of coax driver. My speakers now have a coax diver and they images like a champs. Would love to know if these are really in the same league and offer the level refinement and performance? Thanks

I would love that all world TAD CR1 but out of my range. I was offered a decent deal in the great looking Tannoy DC10A. I love the look also. Do these sound like the Sterling. Is there a chance these are superior to Caramel and Magico S1 or Sonus Faber Guareni Evolution. I have read this new Sonus Faber Guareni Evolution sounds much different than the old SF stuff and is in the mold of the Magico Mini and if so that would seem to be quite a bit better than the YG / Magico. That TAD even used is much more money. Thanks

Aolmrd1241,

Thanks for that... My dealer has made me some great offers on the Sonus Fabers. I have some trades and with them here is the price difference on the difference models. I am pretty sure if I go with Sonus Faber it will be the Sonus Faber Guarani Evolution's because I am assuming they are the best speakers of the three but not positive. Here is the break down : what do you guys think is the best:

SF Olympia III's $1600 cash/trades
SF Eclipse SE $4500 cash/trades
Sonus Faber Guarani Evolution $5000 cash/trades

Hey guys my dealer just called me and told me he just took in a pair of Joseph Audio Perspective speakers. He said they blew him away and thinks they are better than all of the above SF except maybe the Evolution's but has much better bass and more resolution. I never even considered and not sure I am now but I like this dealer and he is an honest and good guy and offered me better deals than all the other people i spoke to and I trust his opinion but would love your opinions. Nothing like making things harder...lol

Thanks

Yes my dealer is 4 hours away and I only have one day off a week. Not gonna get to hear them all. He says to go with the Eclipse SE or the Perspective. I was leaning toward Evolution before...