I forgot about Gillian Welch and Patty Griffin. But who do I bump off my list?
I hear ya -- I think I'd better turn off the computer and go focus on something else for while ! ;o)
100 Albums You Would wish for...from a Genie
This thread was inspired by this thread:
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/building-a-100-album-vinyl-collection-3-must-have-albums-are
Please add to the above list. Thanks!
Okay, here is my premise for this:
I find an very odd, really old record in the $.99 cent bin in the back corner of some old, dusty record store. I pull the LP from the sleeve and a Genie appears. He says I can have any equipment/gear I want. Speakers, amp, preamp, etc. Just name it, (mbl Master Reference System and a custom room for it please.)...
...but, I can only have 100 albums forever to play on it. No "Best Of" or "Greatest Hits". No Box Sets or Compilations. Soundtracks are fine if original score, no Compilations. Double and Triple LP’s count as one album. (This Genie was very detailed in his instructions. He kinda looked like Donald Fagen).
What 100 albums would they be?
(I know I fudged on a rule or two, on a few of mine).
Allman Brothers-Idlewild South
Amazing Rhythm Aces-Too Stuffed To Jump
April Wine-Harder, Faster
Atlanta Rhythm Section-Red Tape
Bad Company-Straight Shooter
The Band-The Last Waltz
The Beatles-Abbey Road
The Beatles: Rubber Soul
Jeff Beck-Live At Ronnie Scott’s
Blackberry Smoke-The Whippoorwill
Blackfoot-Strikes
Karla Bonoff-Restless Nights
Boston-Boston
Jackson Browne-Late For The Sky
Jimmy Buffett-Songs You Know By Heart
Charlie-Lines
Chicago-Chicago Transit Authority
Eric Clapton-461 Ocean Boulevard
Eric Clapton-Slowhand
Marc Cohn-Marc Cohn
Shawn Colvin-Fat City
Cowboy Junkies - The Trinity Sessions
Creedence Clearwater Revival-Cosmo’s Factory
Crosby, Stills & Nash-Daylight Again
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young-Deja Vu
Christopher Cross-Christopher Cross
Miles Davis- Bitches Brew
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Dire Straits-Making Movies
Doobie Brothers-Toulouse Street
Eagles-The Long Run
Electric Light Orchestra-Out Of The Blue
Emerson, Lake & Palmer-Works Volume 1
Melissa Etheridge-Brave And Crazy
Donald Fagen-The New York Rock And Soul Review
Donald Fagen-The Nightfly
Fleetwood Mac-Rumours
Foghat-Foghat
Genesis-Invisible Touch
Hall & Oates-Private Eyes
George Harrison-All Things Must Pass
Head East-Flat As A Pancake
Heart-Dreamboat Annie
John Hiatt-Slow Turning
Hootie And The Blowfish-Cracked Rear View
Bruce Hornsby & The Range-The Way It Is
Indigo Girls-Nomads, Indians & Saints
J. Giles Band-Bloodshot
James Gang-Straight Shooter
Jefferson Airplane-Red Octopus
Billy Joel-The Stranger
Elton John-Goodbye Yellowbrick Road
Rickie Lee Jones-Rickie Lee Jones
Kansas-Leftoverture
Kiss-Dressed To Kill
Mark Knopfler -Shangri La
Alison Krauss-Forget About It
Little River Band-First Under The Wire
The Liz Barnez Band-Inkmarks On Pages
Shelby Lynne-Just A Little Lovin’
Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays-As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls
Steve Miller-Book Of Dreams
Joni Mitchell-Hissing of Summer Lawns
Van Morrison – Moondance
New Riders Of The Purple Sage-The Adventures Of Panama Red
Stevie Nicks-Bella Donna
Tom Petty-Damn The Torpedoes
Poco-Legend
The Police-Zenyatta Mendatta
Queen-The Works
REO Speedwagon-Ridin’ The Storm Out
Robbie Robertson-Robbie Robertson
Linda Ronstadt-Simple Dreams
Roxy Music -Avalon
Rush-2112
Sawmill Creek-Wild Western Windblown Band
Bob Seger-Night Moves
Paul Simon-Still Crazy After All These Years
Bruce Springsteen-Born To Run
Steely Dan-Aja
Steely Dan - Gaucho
Steely Dan-Two Against Nature
Styx-Crystal Ball
Cat Stevens - Tea for the Tillerman
Joss Stone-The Soul Sessions
Supertramp- Crime of the Century
Richard and Linda Thompson- Shoot Out The Lights
Toto-Hydra
Traffic-Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys
Trooper-Knock ’Em Dead Kid
Robin Trower-Bridge of Sighs
The Wallflowers-Bringing Down The Horse
Joe Walsh-The Smoker You Drink, The Player You Get
Wings-Band On The Run
Wings-Venus And Mars
The Wonderful Sounds of Female Vocals
The Wonderful Sounds of Male Vocals
Yes-Fragile
Warren Zevon-Warren Zevon
ZZ Top-Tres Hombres
This is just for fun. I found a ton of albums off the thread, listed at the top, that I had forgot about. Was hoping to find even more. If you want to participate, cool! If not, please don’t.
I’m by no means expecting everyone to add a list of 100 titles. I thought it was a blast, but did take some time. I've also had a blast going back and relistening to a lot of these. Man, I sure missed them.
Play if you want...
(This is by no means a final, definitive list. Probably hundreds of more albums await...)
1) Miles Davis: Second Great Quintet Box Set 2) Allman Bros.: Fillmore East 3) Ry Cooder: Paradise and Lunch 4) Grateful Dead: Europe ’72 5) Bill Evans : Village Vanguard Sessions 6) Wayne Shorter: Night Dreamer 7) Wayne Shorter: Etcetera 8) McCoy Tyner: The Real McCoy 9) McCoy Tyner: Soliloquy 10) Ginger Baker Coward of the County 11) Herbie Hancock: Maiden Voyage 12) Jackie McLean: Dynasty 13) Mal Waldron: You and the Night and the Music 14) Joe Henderson: Inner Urge 15) Joe Henderson: So Near, So Far 16) Andrew Hill: Andrew! 17) Sheila Jordan: Lost and Found 18) Bobby Hutcherson: Stick Up 19) Bobby Hutcherson: Total Eclipse 20) Dexter Gordon: Go 21) Dave Holland Quintet: Prime Directive 22 Dave Holland Octet: Pathways 23) Stan Getz: Windows 24) Stan Getz: live in Paris 25) John McLaughlin: Extrapolation 26) Shakti: A Handful of Beauty 27) Oregon: 1974 28) Oregon: Out of the Woods/Roots In the Sky 29) Milton Nacimiento: Clube Da Esquina 30) Chick Corea: Now He Sings; Now He Sobs 31) Chick Corea/RTF: Return To Forever 32) Chick Corea/RTR: Light as a Feather 33) Chick Corea/Gary Burton: Crystal Silence 34) Bobo Stenson/Jan Garbarek: Witchi Tai To 35) K. Jarrett: Belonging 36) Keith Jarrett European Quartet: Sleeper 37) Pat Metheny: Bright Size Life 38) Kenny Garret: Songbook 39) Kenny Wheeler: Deer Wan 40) Flora Purim: Perpetual emotion 41) J. L. Ponty: Aurora 42) Pat Martino: Exit 43) Pentangle: Basket of light 44) Pentangle: Sweet Child 45) Cedar Walton: Eastern Rebellion 46) Art Farmer: Blame It On My Youth 47) Larry Coryell: Tricycles 48) John Scofield/J. Lovano: Meant to Be 49): NHOP: Unforgettable NHOP Trio Live 50) Joe Lovano: Landmarks 51) Woody Shaw: Live in Bremen 52) Woody Shaw: United 53) Michel Petrucciani: Complete Live in Germany 54) Michel Petrucciani: Live at Village Vanguard 55) Stanley Cowell: Live 56) Billy Harper: Soul of an Angel 57) Grant Green: Idle Moments 58) Jackie Ryan: You and the Night and the Music 59) Vincent herring: Simple Pleasure 60) Jackie Ryan: Doozy 61) Tina May: More Than You Know 62) Tina May: I Never Told You 63) Lindsay Lou and the Flatbellies: Ionia 64) Stray Birds: Magic Fire 65) Birds of Chicago Live 66) Railroad Earth: Last of the Outlaws 67) Gillian Welch: Boots Number One 68) Peter Rowman/Tony Rice: Quartet 69) Kris Delmhorst: Songs For A Hurricane 70) Neil Casal: Fade Away Diamond Time 71) Jorma Kaukonen: Quah 72) Joni Mitchell: Miles of Aisles 73) Steely Dan: Countdown to Ecstasy 74) Steely Dan: Pretzel Logic 75) Steely Dan: Katy Lied 76) Courtney Marie Andrews: Honest Life 77) Patrick Park: Everyone’s In Everyone 78) Patty Griffin: Impossible Dream 79) Patrick Park: Love Like Swords 80) Steve Forbert: Alive On Arrival 81) Steve Forbert: Young Guitar Days 82) John Prine: The Missing years 83) John Prine: Fair and Square 84) Richard, Linda Thompson: I Want To See the Bright Lights Tonight 85) Big Brother: Cheap Thrills 86) Hendrix: First Ray of the New Rising Sun 87) Hendrix: Band of Gypsys Box Set: Songs For Groovy Children 88) Who: Whos’ Next 89) Pete Townshend: Who Came First 90) Stones: Exile on Main Street 91) Neil Young: Carnegie Hall 1970 92) Loggins and Messina: Mother Lode 93) Dylan: Blonde On Blonde 94) Dylan: Tell Tale Signs 95) Grateful Dead: Skull and Roses 96) Butterfield Blues Band: East West 97) Emmy Lou Harris: Luxury Liner 98) Emmy Lou Harris: Pieces of the Sky 99) Lucinda Williams: Car Wheels on a Gravel Road 100) Lucinda Williams: Lucinda Williams 90) Rodney Crowell: Ain’t Livin’ Long Like This 91) Brian Auger: Second Wind 92) Albert Collins: Ice Pickin’ 94) Taj Mahal: The Real Thing 95) Beatles : White Album 96) Stevie Wonder: Innervisions 97) Little Feat: Waiting For Columbus 98) Janis Joplin: Pearl 99) John Mayall : Blues Breakers with Eric Clapton 100) Blind Faith
This is really hard. Ask me next week and I’ll probably come up with a different list.
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... and there might be none on your list that I would want. For example, the sound of a classically trained voice is like fingernails on a blackboard, to my ears/brain. How would this be relevant, should you post a list? What if I were to say to you "Opera? Yech! How can you stand to listen to that "? Your subjective tastes are not some sort of universal standard by which to measure others’ esthetic preferences.
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I definitely recognize that I’m limited by my tastes -- as time goes on, I’m finding less and less music that I want to buy. As mentioned above, I’ve never enjoyed the sound of Classical Vocals. It’s not the music. It’s what I experience as an overall highly exaggerated, unnatural and off-putting quality of the sound. It’s not clear to me how one could "learn to listen" to a sound that one finds inherently unpleasant/annoying. Care to expound further? I don't mean to "pick on" Classical singers but this just happens to be one of the genres most affected by the limiting aspects of my taste. |
Thanks to both of you for your very generous responses 🙏
There is only instance I can recall where I changed my mind about music I initially disliked and that was the two recordings by the acoustic version of Return to Forever. For a long time, they sounded extremely light weight and commercial to me. But I kept "returning" to them and then, one day, I enjoyed them and have ever since. However, that was an aberration -- the exception-- rather than the rule. I’ve tried this "re-listening" tactic with other music (such as Prog -- "A Tab In The Ocean" is one that comes to mind-- ) and consistently failed. All I can conclude is that I’m unusually resistant to being dislodged from the familiar. No doubt there are psychological underpinnings for this that can be explored.
It would appear I’m a bit of an outlier re: your "test" of whether I posses a heart or not because, paradoxically, I’m not immune to the emotion M. A. conveys but neither do I enjoy the vocal esthetic. The latter tends to render the latter moot, in my case. Make of this what you will. ;o) Of the samples you posted, the two I did enjoy were The Canticles of Ecstasy and the Schutz piece. I related to these not as "music for listening" but due to their strong emphasis on the vibrational aspect as a means of elevating consciousness, more as mantra or bhajan and in so doing, the question of esthetics/taste receded into the background. That being said, I don’t want to listen to bhajan all the time! Still, you have succeeded in opening up the possibility that Classical choral music (without orchestral accompaniment) might be something I could enjoy. Finally, in the interest of accentuating the positive, here is an example of vocal music I have no difficulty enjoying that is not Jazz or any type of western popular music (the sound on the video is fairly quiet -- you may need to turn it up): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAQYISy-3YQ
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Your latest post brings things into much clearer focus for me. Thanks for making the effort to keep going until I was able to understand 🙏
This reminds me very much of Buddhism’s emphasis upon a willingness to be fully present in every moment, in any type of situation -- pleasant or unpleasant.-- equally. And it’s made me curious about what it is about (solo) classical vocals that evokes such a strong determination in me not to be present. I was aware of this listening to Alfred Dreller -- the emotional aspect felt overwhelming -- like something I had to "fend off". On the other hand, I can listen to other music (Blues, for example) that is also intensely emotional, but without the sense of overwhelm. I could say the same for Indian music -- it can be intensely emotional but this type of expression I feel "at home in", just like the Blues, or the Savina Yanatou piece I posted. By contrast, Western Classical music feels quite "alien" to me, like I "don't belong" there. Perhaps this has to do with past lives; I don't know. There remains at least one aspect that confuses me. When you say :
How do you separate the "esthetic" from the "more" ? Do you view this in terms of which chakras a given musical piece activates... or? Thanks for your ongoing patience!
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I love Willie’s version of "Crazy". I don’t think he gets enough recognition for his guitar playing, personally. I regard Willie's voice as elemental, like the wind -- timeless. "Funny How Time Slips Away" is another favorite. And when you put ’em both together.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hdod4ltsms&list=OLAK5uy_lVWbillStyAoMIexCRzEydjOz6rKhOUls
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@bdp24 I'm very sensitive to harsh highs and as I don't have the option of following the embedding advice of @mahgister (my system in in our living room), I try to be very careful with gear choices. Nevertheless, I unintentionally ended up with too forward a presentation earlier in the year., after replacing my Moon transport with a Jay's. At first, I was seduced by the significant increase in resolution. Resolution had never been a top priority for me, so this level of detail was a novelty. However, as time went on, I found myself listening less and less. I reached a point where after 30 seconds of music, I had to turn off the system. Utilizing advice from forum members, I was able to identify and address the problemmatic parts of the signal chain. It's hard to say whether the system has any less detail, now. If it does, I don't miss it. Still, there are some particularly poor-sounding CDs I've had to get rid of. So, for those who don't have a well treated room, it would appear to be a balancing act -- having enough resolution to make for a convincing presentation, without pushing it so far that it becomes fatiguing.
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