I own this lovely integrated and there is no pre out on mine. The beauty of this integrated is the synergy between amp and pre so it makes no sense to split them. My next move up the food chain would be Odyssey. That said this is a very formidable performer with the right speakers. I have this flowing to a pr. Joseph Audio monitors and it is musical and right. Do not sell this int. short it is hard to replace at many times it's cost.