Silverline?Thiels? Audio Physic?: Need guidance


After deciding to look for something better than Thiels Audio Physic, I have been on the verge of purchasing a pair of Silverline Sonatina II, but read that they really sound better with a tube amp. I have a high current SS Aragon amp which is 200RMS. Also, I am confused if this is the best choice of speakers because there seems to be many Silverlines on resale. Yes, their cabinet wood is beautiful, but I don't want a speaker that is going to sound either bright, uneven, dull, or boomy because it is more compatible with some esoteric tube flea power amp. I can't afford to go out and buy $3000-5000 in monoblock tube amps or even a single tube amp of 100 RMS. So, owners or former owners of Silverline Sonata II or Sonatina II, I need your advice. Also, one final question, how does the Sonatina II compare to either the Audio Physic Virgo II, and/or Thiel 2.3 both which I heard and like for different reasons; I was hoping from what I read on the web that the Silverlines are better and offer more detailed and musical sound. Thank you all, SJ
sunnyjim
Unsound, I had always assumed the same thing, but as Drubin hipped me to, and Jazzdude confirms here, the 2.3 turns out to have had a relatively short run by Thiel standards. All of which makes me very curious for what's in store with the 3-series, which was for so long effectively their brand leader. (Still haven't been able to set the date for my service/tour factory visit yet, due to the Thiel crew's having been away at the show last week, but I should finally get things arranged this week. I look foward to hearing and learning whatever I can during my day there.)
I've sold both the Audio Physic and Thiel line in the past. I would call neither the Virgo's nor the 2.3's(current drivers) bright at all! Yes they're on the edge of refinement(as are all more accurate high end speakers IMO), and could sound either bright or "rolled-off" depending on assiciated equipment. Perhaps the older Thiel offerings had some mid/upper trebble accentuation characteristics(possibly dealt with with tubes for best results...as it's all balance anyway). But The Thiels are certainly very refined sounding monitors to my ears with the right gear. The Virgo's are also excellent speakers, within reason with most music/audio sources.
I can't speak for the Siverline's, but you might just "try" something and find out! Like anything else, you'll have to try it with your gear, in your system, with your room, to your ears to find out!
I owned the 2.3's for some time, and they were very good with more powerful hi-end amps(the 200w/ch aragon should do fine with them for now). I also like "jazzdudes" suggestion about a tube preamp up front! This balances things well and ads some "tube magic"! Also, I think the 2.3's are a better choice for larger dynamic stuff, like Rock or HT. Good luck
I drive my Silverline Sonatina II's with a Krell FPB 300cx power amp (300 watts/ch and very musical; much different than earlier Krells). My speakers sing with this amp. Excellent clarity, tight (but not overly deep) bass, an unequalled midrange and a sweet, extended top.

I think you see many references to tube amps with these speakers not because tubes are any better sounding, but because these speakers are so efficient and also mate well with tubes. But I heard these with tubes (Cary Rocket 88) and my Krell stomps the tube amp.

I also think the reason you see some of these on sale is because they are something of a "bridge" speaker in cost: on the high side of mid - priced high end sopeakers, but on the low side of sub - $10K speakers. I have listened to the Merlim Millenium VSM and the Von Schweikert VR5 over the last few days, and while both speakers do certain things better than the Sonatinas, neither of them are as organically rewarding.

neal
I had basically the same question s as Sunnyjim but must alsohave pair down my choices to both style and musicality. In todays world, home owners want audio excellence and speakers that can fit in to elegant spaces. The Sonatinas are very nice looking and may work well with my CJ tube gear. Audio Physics sound nice and are fairly attractive...but exposed drivers don't cut it outside of a listening room. V erity seems to get it right on all counts. I love Merlin VSMs but not for design reasons. It has to be more than just fit and finish...maybe we should change from WAF to DF or design factor.
I want to thank all for their excellent and helpful comments. This type of response again confirms for me what a great membership we have. Best regards for the New Year!! Jimbo