Sibilance -- that last little bit...


I have the ever so slightest bit of sibilance toward the end of some LP's.

The Lp's themselves are minty, so I know it isn't the Lp's. (more than one LP rules that out.)

Striving for that last lil touch is gonna drive me nuts!

I have a Well Tempered Classic V, and the arm is a real pain in the ass to set up. Anti skate comes to mind, but that is a real pain-- grrr. Then again more VTF comes to mind as well.

The cart is at the higher end of the recommended VTF -- 1.8 grams.

Any insight is greatly appreciated.

But in the mean time, is really does sound pretty sweet.

Thanks in advance.

~Fx

A new cart is in the works--- but ya know the upgrade-itis bug.

Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Focusedfx, Does this sibilance seem to be equally strong through both channels? If it appears more in one channel, I would attack the anti-skate issue. I had a WT Classic 'arm for a couple of years and found it to be difficult to work with for anti-skate. I ended up with too much anti-skate because the other parameters were right in that setting.

The lack of a precisely determined pivot point, a suspended, partially floating paddle in damping fluid probably all contribute to small changes in geometry during play. It's a tricky 'arm, although a very satisfying one when married to the right cartridge, etc.

Could cartridge compliance vs. effective 'arm mass play a greater role in the inner grooves because of the viscous fluid being "moved" more by the rotation of the 'arm? Maybe a better cartridge compliance/effective mass match would help. Last I spoke to WT, they really liked the Sumiko cart's.

(I used the Dynavector 10X4 and Benz Glider with the WT Classic with good results. No inner groove sibilance. But...that was some time ago.)
Just an update:

I have had this table and arm setup before I had to disassemble it for a move. Same records, same system etc. Never any sibilance at all-- I do remember it took me forever to get set properly.

I guess I am just not being patient enough.

I am re-thinking what is happening here and I am betting it will be fairly straight forward, although time consuming, to get correct.

I have spent a good part of this early morning at A.J. Van den Hul's website, and have decided to concentrate on azimuth as well as sra (which means checking and re-checking everything :)) Then being prepared to do it all again and...

The only thing that makes this so difficult is that any time I make even the slightest adjustment to any part of the setup ie: Vtf or Vta or ... I have to wait for the arm to stabilize in the silicon well. I can adjust VTA on the fly, so this is one thing in my favor.

Whew, instead of making this post into a novel, I'd better get busy! I am devoting today to getting this thing as dialed in as I can.

That said, the sibilance is so minute I could just live with it --- naw!

Thanks to everyone for the great input!! it is much appreciated.

I will update soon,

Happy Listening,

Richard
~Fx