Found an interesting way to compare IC cables...


Hi Agoner's,

I found an interesting way to compare IC's that immediately and vividly shows up the difference between different cables.

I was listening to my new pair of Sennheiser HD-580's and thought the sound was "veiled over", so did a quick switch of IC cables and everything immediately openned up. So much for the award winning name brand cables versus the no-name brand :)

Caveat: I realize this does not highlight the exact effects of the different interactions between equipment!

Any thoughts on this as a valid test?
joshcloud9
It would seem there are a number of interactions between a given cable and the component(s) that the cable connects to. Personally, I am not going to take the time to try and figure them out, and I seriously doubt I would be able to do so if I tried. I agree with Bob and Sean that a cable that is eliminated from consideration in one system says very little about how it will perform in another, unless it is fundamentally flawed in some way.
I think it depends where you plan on using the cable.

The reason I say this is because recently I changed my source to pre cables (AZ WOW) with my pre to amp cables (AZ Matrix Ref II) and was bowled over by the difference. With the WOW between the source and pre amp there was more extension and clarity, with the Matrix Ref between source and pre it was noticable smoother but quite a bit less impact and more ill defined. I expected a difference but not this much.

This is why I think the headphone test would be valid only if you tested cables in the spot you intend them to go in your normal setup.
Lately I've been doing the same in my (primarily: DIY) cable experiments (and have also just recently acquired a pair of 580s :0) As a twist in the same vein, you might try as well a pair of Grados (RS60, 80 and upwards) which may even be more useful for this testing purpose. Nominally Sennheisers are more "polite" than Grados with their signature PRAT. Because the Grados are more forward-sounding, (arguably) better resolving in the highs (and other things), they may reveal some IC differences more obviously which might be more veiled under the Senns.

Going a step further: if differences are very subtle (or powers of concentration are diminishing from excess listening/ear bleed etc.), let someone else do the work. Just grab the nearest wife (or other [un]willing victim) at hand - she listens, you do cable rotation duty. Per (some of) John Dunlavy's comments regarding cables, I think it's a good idea not to make suggestive remarks which may influence the listener and to approximate a DBT as closely as possible. It's fun to compare notes with an objective listener, or in any case with someone for whom the question which cable in your system sounds best/most musical/etc. is of only marginal interest.

One wouldn't think that double blind testing should be a controversial topic; however, it is one of the few things that is explicitly ruled out in, say, Cable Asylum (it appears many get excited over cables). In any case, DBT seems to me to be the thing one might want if it is (general) validity in the (specific) system for a certain IC (mutatis mutandis) that is desired.
It is hard to guess how IC's react with the equipment. A friend of mine uses siltech gen3 ic's. He has a single-ended[Bruce Armstrong non-pariel preamp]. Magic. He tried them on my pre[also single-ended]. More magic....the best I every heard from just changing ics. I asked him why. He believes siltech really jells with single-ended designs. Why? I don't know why but it's all synergy. Your choice may be just what you need. Wires can drive a person to drink.
Gotta agree with Agonanon. I find that the spectral tilt of my Senn HD600 to be midway between my Spendor HT setup and my Parsifal Encore ref 2 ch setup, which at first made me wonder which was correct. It's simply that the Spendors are more forgiving than the Parsifals, so using the SPM XLRs on the HT would be a waste, whereas in the ref system, along with the extension of the other components, they help provide revelatory musical experiences every time.
I should think that the HOT-topped Stax phones would help differentiate ICs, pre's and CDPs even better...although with a much higher fatigue-factor, eh?