Hall of Shame

People come here in need of advice, they may be new to this or just lack some small bit of experience. Others propose to be the protectors of the flock or the audio equivilant of the "morality police" to defend the sheep from the evil audio establishment who is bound and determined to rip them off. Those rotten dealers and criminal manufacturers. Yea right! The emperor has no clothes,eh? Bull#$@t! Oh yea, you who are of closed mind can sit there and say this crap, having no real experience or credibility. I for one was a retailer in the high end for more than ten years and am offended deeply by these assertions by kooks that the industry is just a bunch of snake oil salesmen that are out to fleece the unsuspecting public. There are some very bright and serious people out there who are innovators in this industry and dealers who care about their clientel, otherwise you would all be listening to shit made by milti-national corporations and sold by places like Wal-Mart who don't care about audiophiles and their sensitivities.Take the original Sony CD player for example.Talk about the emperor has no clothes, if it weren't for people like myself and a few others who stood up and cried foul when this junk was proclaimed to be "perfect sound",this is all you would have gotten. It is the small independent manufacturers and dealers who make this "hobby" possible. So when you make foolish claims or defend such claims, i.e. that all tube gear and all hi-end cables are only noteworthy enough to be in the"Hall of Shame" You are slandering the people who have made it possible to attain the level of musical reproduction that is possible today. You are attacking people like Bill Johnson of ARC,Bill Conrad and Lew Johnson, Ray Kimber,Bruce Brisson,.....these are people who have done something other than sit in a damn chat forum and dole out stupid and bad advice to the unsuspecting who come here to really learn how to get more enjoyment from their music. Again I will say that there many here that adress the questions and issues of the people asking for advice with good information based on experience. Unfortunatly there are those among us who should keep their uninformed oppinions to themselves!

Bishopwill, you right me wrong. Welcome,welcome,welcome. Must be that little devil coming out of me.

Right on, Maxgain!!

Well spoken Maxgain, wished it were true of the entire comunity. But there are bad eggs in every good basket! Glad you mention Bruce Brisson, who is a very serious researcher and whose cables are often badmouthed in these pages. Why not add pioneers like Sid Smith, Saul Marantz and Nelson Pass to your list?

Very well said Maxgain!!