Roger Waters Live Last Night in Glendale,AZ


My first concert in a while. Last was Sia. 

Roger has a message for his audience

that comes with the music. Somewhat off-putting

I must say. I went for music not politics. Not saying

I totally disagree with his. F-bombs galore. All our presidents

past and current are mass murderers. Could be a bit strong.

He is 79 and British.  Has some fun stories. I can live without

the other messages though. Is this messaging common nowadays?

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@teo_audio 

"Yet, americans are going about their lives as if nothing is going on, as the media and the politics are not letting them know how desperate things are."

 

Quite true. Thanks for that well thought out post.

However, there might come a point where the political actors can no longer distract their audience from the fact that the theatre is on fire.

What particularly bothers me is the seemingly irreversible increase in the national debt of countries such as the UK and the US.

At some point the interest repayments threaten to become unmanageable.

What happens then?

The old plan of invading other countries is becoming very difficult to sell these days.

As for the dangerous situation in Ukraine, it's disheartening to see that the western governments seem to have no interest in any attempts to broker peace.

Nor in the welfare of their own people.

Even during the darkest days of the Cuban missile crisis Kruschev and Kennedy managed to maintain a line of communication that eventually saved the world.

 

The situation here in the UK is now approaching critical as this weeks events illustrated.

We need more people of Waters' calibre inviting debate, not less.

Entertainers these days are no longer obliged to perform as the band on the Titanic once had to.

Saw "The Wall" in Phoenix with my son in 2012 - was it really that long ago?  I do not recall it being saturated with his world views.  Enjoyed it enough to see him again in 2017 because my wife had not gone in 2012.  Found an email to a friend about his 2017 concert in Phoenix.  Said I wouldn't go to another concert of his for the same reasons as you, so at least he's consistent.  Your comments confirm my decision to vote with my pocketbook this time when I chose not to go.   On the other hand, I have driven to LA and made it a long weekend to see David Gilmour....

I guess it boils down to if you agree with his political views you probably don't mind his political rants and if you don't agree with him you probably want him to shut up and just play music. I personally don't want to listen to political speeches at a music concert but it's not like it's illegal to do so -unless you say something that upsets the media and twitter weirdos- and I really want fans not to copy the ideologies of these musicians and just find their way of thinking. It's a shame but probably fans will copy him or others no matter what.

@mayabeez

I really want fans not to copy the ideologies of these musicians and just find their way of thinking. It’s a shame but probably fans will copy him or others no matter what.

 

I remember reading Hunter Davies Beatles biography when I was around 16/17 and being disappointed to find that they didn’t offer much by way of political advice.

Instead the message that was repeated by all of the fab four was that you must think for yourself.

Back then that was a disappointment because I didn’t know what to think, and I wasn’t comfortable with uncertainty either. I was just ready and eager to jump on any bandwagon my heroes suggested.

Grown up politics made no sense at all.

Wars made no sense as the gains were disproportionate to the losses I reckoned.

The economic system was totally unfathomable at 16, and school hadn’t taught me anything that would help.

It was almost as if the teachers themselves didn’t know.

Anyway, with the passing of time, that advice has proved itself to be correct.

Absolutely correct.

The young can be very impressionable and musicians should bear that in mind. It’s probably not such a big deal in Waters’ case as I imagine his audience would be mature enough not to be swayed so easily.

In her time Joan Baez spent a lot of energy campaigning for her beliefs. Ultimately it’s doubtful whether it did them any good, but they certainly impacted badly on her music.