Upgrading from Primaluna


Recently went down the front end upgrade path and am running a nice table and phono now. I'm curious as to what the weaker link in my system is between my Primaluna Dialogue Premium Preamp and my Dialogue Premium Hp Power Amp. I'm considering swapping out the amp to a Ps Audio BHK250 for the summer to avoid heat, but am curious if I would be better off dealing with the heat and moving up to say an Allnic L-7000/Arc Ref 3 for the Pre. I'm happy with tubes on the front end, but curious if I'm running out of gas with 88DB efficient speakers and a single chassis tube amp. Which amp would you upgrade first and what benefits would you expect?

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I have the PL300 and the 400, running in mono block with Tannoy Kensington and Avant grade DUO XD; if I were to do it again I would buy the 300.

The 400’s offer so little more than the 300s, at a huge expense if you change tubes.

I listen to your speakers with a Diablo 300, just magic combination; I also listened them with a Pathos Heritage, great combo but not as good as with the Diablo 300, the Heritage had a little trouble driving them at low volumes so they did not sound big and relaxed. I auditioned your speakers vs the Tannoy at Upscale with a 300 and 400, the PLs just do not have the drive these speakers need. For the PLs you need 90+ efficiency especially if you listen at normal levels then you can get the best out of the amps. to my ears the 300 drove the Focal better than the 400, but that is my ears, which did not know if it was a 400 or a 300.

If you want to add some tube color get a tube preamp, your speakers are not easy to drive, especially at lower volumes, they need the power to open up and then they are very nice speakers.

Pardon my English, not native :)

Definitely get the speakers farther apart and toed in more.  It costs nothing.  Move your listening seat forward to create an equilateral triangle, you can move it back a bit, =10%, later.  Don't know how the PL sounds with your speakers, you could ask that crazy guy on the West coast for advise.  PS audio gives you a free trial period so no risk to order.  That SS amp will sound very different than the PL.  This may not work... but, can you move the speakers to the long wall?  May be a real improvement if it can be done.

Have fun!

Also, want a cool running amp?  Try PS Audio's Class D mono blocks. My Wilson dealer tells me he's got some customers with big Wilson's running them and they sold pretty good.  A reasonable endorsement.

I own a PS Audio 250 amp and matching pre amp and I am very happy with the sound. My speakers are floor standing SF

I had the PrimaLuna EVO400 preamp and power amp combo.  I wanted SS as well and replaced the PL combo with a Luxman L-509X integrated amp.  I like it better than the PL I had, although the PL was very nice.  The Gryphon Diablo 120 or 300 is the only other integrated amps I would like to hear in my setup in the future. It sounds like you want to stick with separates, but the integrated amps I mentioned are well respected pieces.  The new Luxman M-10X power amp will have more juice than my L-509X integrated amp since more power is your goal.