An interesting demonstration

@mijostyn 

 My smiles are related to the items being sold as the comedy of the icebreaker he used to open his part of the presentation. It is the few bad apples that make cynics and skeptics of us all.  I see some good points made regarding changes made in the inaudible range, as well as the claim that a person was hearing a phase shift in a 10 foot guitar chord. There are some valid points being made in Winers presentation, but I disagree with some of the generalities regarding how people listen and what we remember or hear.  He also has a very nice listening room and some quality equipment and instruments. He does a fair job of busting some myths and outlining how Flether Munson Curves can be involved in what we hear or like.  Lastly, I have seen the trick he posted regarding the speaker companies who use averaged third octave for the graph as well as enlaging the gradients on the Y axis.  I take everything with a grain of salt or two but it would be obtuse to disregard everything in his presentation. Unless of course we are in the business of selling those Brilliant Pebbles ;)  Cheers. 

Selling costly cables with marketing " false science" is one thing, thinking that debunking that is "pure science" is another propaganda piece... It is reducing a potential phenomena to his speech justification by the alleged "crook" or a circus by the "debunker"...Cables could be linked to different perception in different system...This is a fact easy to experiment with....Selling these cables at a high price is another fact unrelated to their real positive or negative  effect...

Claiming we are all deluded when the brain create music from the sounding bodies of an orchestra through the waves imaging information is reducing music phenomena and perception to physical sound waves...Simplistic...

I dont sell anything by the way save ideas and experiments...even with quartz and other "peebles"....


For sure crooks exist, but this does not justify blind test debunking circus no more that the crooks discourse explain cable comparison...

I am sure that there is interesting facts in this video but the beginning convey the hallmark of an engineering point of view not of a musician or a psycho-acoustician...

It is very hard to take Paul Mcgowan seriously.

+1 on that.


He always seems to do back flips to where the $$$ come from.

Cheers George

Funny how money is so often involved. But please believe me, I am not an ASR guy, or a measurements guy at all. In fact, am currently looking at a less than stellar measuring NOS R2R DAC because, well,  my ears. :)
       I will pass on the Quantum Clip and the Pebbles. 

I never bought any "tweaks" nor anything costly AT ALL ....Never....

But instead of bad mouthing what seems to me honest people i dont know on audio thread, like Paul Mcgowan, i experiment with no cost devices of my own making...

Then i dont make of myself a fool who will buy costly "tweaks" or not less worst, a debunker who hold more to his debunking ideology than to experimenting with devices...






My motto is:

Dont upgrade before embedding mechanically, electrically and acoustically the gear....

Dont buy "tweaks" try to replicate them at no cost....

Most of the times acoustic low cost treatment and cheap home made mechanical controls beat most gear upgrade....




Try to debunk my method....Good luck....

Some fools have tried, and call all my system : placebos...

Some other reviewer  fool have tried, and call my system Low-Fi

Thats all.... But i laugh at all these fools because my system not being the best in the world for sure beat everything in the S.Q./price ratio scale...

 Then....

Reading debunkers and reviewers  alike i smile....