Help in putting together my system with used equipment on Audiogon and eBay.


I’m looking for the best bang for the buck. What equipment can I find that would make the best system for my budget ($8000)? I'm starting out with:

Pass Labs X1 Preamp, my rock to start with. I got it for $2500 This is where you can help me the most. Let me know your best match for this pre-amp, or the ones you have found to be the best you have heard!

Bryston 4B SST amp for about $1700. It’s been my experience that more power wakes up a speaker and pins it’s ears back. At 300wpc and the reviews on this amp I picked it, but just to start. I really need some experienced people to give me recommendations for the amp, or if the Bryston is a winner. I can sell this for a better amp.

Do I need a DAC?

Phono. I’ve realized that might be a big reason why people go to separates isn’t it? I’d like to hear some comments on this. If you have separates and no phono, what do you use? Stream music? CD’s?

CD player? I do have a lot of CD’s. With separates, it’s either phono, cd, or streaming correct?

I’m not really a phono guy, but I know which albums I would buy so it is an option. I wouldn’t know a good phono if you hit me with it. Please recommend a few.

I’m leaning toward B&W speakers just because of their reputation. I may spend up to 5k on a good pair of speakers, but I want them to be used and costing much more when bought new. I know how to spot a good deal and not buy speakers on their death bed (from reputable sellers), but I need your recommendations too. You all have heard more speakers than I ever have and will.

**I’m going to check this post often and answer any questions and write down your recommendations.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE FOR THIS, IT IS A BIG DEAL FOR ME!
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Skip the phono.  It costs too much for the rewards.  Don't buy a crappy system and waste your money tweaking the hell out of it.  For your budget, it would be hard to beat old B&W 802's, either Series II or III, preferably the latter.  The Bryston amp is wonderful.  I slightly prefer my Audire over my Bryston, but Audire is extrinct, and you are looking at an ST version, redesigned by Stuart Taylor.  He did a lot for several companies, including the Adcom 555, which if put to the specs he actually designed, before the accountants neutered it, was great.
Get a good preamp.  I would recommend an Audire, but not anything you will ever see, because the much praised Legato is a bit weak in the power supply, and does not have the impact of the Diffet 3 or 5 or the Andante. The two is pretty good, but also rare.  I have had most of these and settled on two 3's, after I missed an Andante.  Try to find a really good CD player and tuner.  Go to fmtunerinfo.com to learn about these.  I tried many over the years, and their listening tests are spot on.  I would suggest that a Sansui TU707/717 as a minimum for both listening and playing with.  If you want to just set some stations and listen, the B&K  TS107.  It sounds so good that I have to use my Audire Diffet 3 to tell that it sounds different from my Monster Kenwood KT-917 I bought in 1979.   My Diffet 2 does not bring out the difference.  Sadly, the B&K is better than the 17 in the lower bass, but only on a really good recording.  If you decide to go for a TT, I do have one to sell, as well as a couple of extra arms, but I recommend you save your money for the rest of the system. Unfortunately,  i am a bit ignorant on current pre-amps that are within you budget, But I would get a Bryston to match your amp. $1700 amp;  $800 preamp;  $400 tuner;  $!500 B&W's;  and you have money for a good CD player and, if you wish, a streamer.
Oh yeah!  Beginning around $3000, you can get some really good, newer B&W's, but don't go below a Nautilus or S series 803, or you will need subs.  (Exception: The 804 with the dual woofs is really good.)  I have the second generation 803's but must run subs with my second amp and pre-amp to get things phased properly.
...speakers: see what’s on the vintage market from Gershman Acoustics:
Can’t go wrong with anything from them (and no sub’s needed)!
And partner them with a PAIR OF PATHOS CLASSIC ONE MKIII HYBRID INTEGRATEDS IN MONO MODE, OPERATED FROM ONE REMOTE... ADD AN AUDIO MIRROR TROUBADOR DAC NEW!
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Buy an integrated amp when you have a preamp you already love? Nobody has explained what they mean by get an integrated because it’s better. What I think they mean is it is easier to get the preamp section and the power section to match with an integrated amp, than it is when buying separates. I don’t think separates was a scheme to get people to by more pieces.

As far as the whole "you need to spend most of your budget on speakers" That is not necessarily true. Maybe see if there is a high end store around you and do some listening. Magnepan .7 is a good speaker. They are only 1,400.00 new. There is a video on Youtube (and maybe Patreon too), where this guy is using those Magnepan .7’s with a Jays Audio CDT2, ($2,200.00), A Jeff Rowland 535 amp ($5,900.00), and a Stella D700 DAC($1195.00) and raves about their performance. I’ll post a link in case you are inclined to view it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpJnupgiNIU