High output MC cartridges


I'm looking to replace my MI cartridge with a HOMC cartridge.
I've narrowed it down (price/output mV) to either the Dynavector 20x2 MC, or, the Sumiko Blackbird MC .
Before I take another plung .... I thought I'd run it by the AG community to see if anybody out there has experience comparing these two offerings?
thehorn
Please do.
I know Chak will regale with you lists of vintage mm carts although some will be near unobtanium and as for spare NOS styli...... 

Although sometimes you just have to be in the right place at the right time.
Am interested in your opinion as just to what you’d classify as killer MM, & the best NOS cantilevers and styli are?

Over the years many audiogon members discovered the best MM/MI cartridges, exact models provided by the contributors of this forum (including myself) who tried so many of them and even compared them to some very expensive modern MC cartridges (i did it too). The lucky ones purchased those MM when they were cheap and underrated (10-15 years ago). Most of those MM are from the mid 70s/80s. Most of us who joined a bit later paid our dues, those cartridges always goes up in price on used market because they are highly competitive with modern high-end carts (normally 5-10 times in price). I do not value all vintage MM/MI as high as some specific models, the Shure is definitely not in my list of the best carts, except maybe ULTRA series. I do not value high any cartridge that degrade in quality in time (especially the ones with weak suspension), some models are not good and we know why, so they must be avoided. Personally i’m buying only perfect cartridges (New Old Stock or very close to MINT condition). If i like the sound in comparison to my reference cartridges i am looking for more samples, then i compare different samples. In the last 5 years i discovered some killer MM cartridges, every sample that i bought was great. I also managed to find some NOS styli for them (only originals). I hate refurbished or re-tipped cartridges, i like only fully original samples in top condition. In the price range from $600 to $1500 anyone can find and buy absolutely amazing MM/MI or even MC cartridges from the golden age of analog (70s/80s), in perfect condition of course. I’ve mentioned my favorite models on this forum many times. We’re all have different preferences, but some rare models are hard to beat.

The best stylus is the one that last forever (say 2000 hrs) like MicroRidge, or MicroLine (and related expensive profiles). They are the best for details retrieval and for less record wear. FineLine, LineContact or Shibata also great. The diamond must be "nude". The cantilever must be Beryllium or Boron Pipe, Sapphire and Ruby also nice. Mid or High compliance, low moving mass. This is some of the basics.

Conical styli must be avoided, aluminum cantilevers must be avoided if you’re looking for the killer MM/MI (imo). Good styli starts from Nude Elliptical, a good cantilever must be at least Titanium Pipe.

Some cartridges you can’t go wrong with:

-Victor X-1IIe (Titanium/Elliptical)
-Pioneer PC-1000 mkII (Beryllium/ Elliptical)
-Victor X1IID (Beryllium/Shibata)
-Sony XL-50 (Boron/Elliptical) 
-Audio-Technica AT-ML150 (Gold-Plated Beryllium / MicroLine)
-Audio-Technica AT-ML170 (Gold-Plated Boron / MicroLine)
-Audio-Technica AT-ML180 (Gold-Plated Boron or Beryllium / MicroLine)
-Grace F14 with Beryllium, Boron or Ruby cantilevers.
-Grace LEVEL II with Beryllium, Boron, Ruby or Sapphire cantilevers.
-Stanton CS-100 WOS (Sapphire coated cantilever / Stereohedron II tip)
-ADC TRX-II (Sapphire Cantilever / VITAL III PH tip)
-Glanz MFG-61 (Boron / PH)
-Joe Grado Signature XTZ

P.S. This is what i use myself and i have a spare of some models and styli for them. Never had any problem with any of those carts, i think it’s safe to by any of them used or NOS.







I have used a Sumiko Blue Point Special  for years and find it to be very balanced in tone and overall presentation.  I have also used mm cartridges and prefer the HOMC.  I have a well tempered record player and a Krell phono stage.  I think the Blue Point special is a bargain.
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I have also used mm cartridges and prefer the HOMC.

MM cartridges are not the same, maybe your MM was bad if you prefer HOMC. My experience is opposite, a decent MM is always better than High Output MC. Also stylus wear and required re-tipping service make HOMC inconvenient and expensive to use, while the stylus replacement on MM or MI is amazing feature. Againg: SoundSmith lecture spread the light on MC versus MM/MI, loads of technical info.