DynAudio Contour 60 vs Paradigm Persona 7F


Hi all,

I know there is a big difference in price and that the 7Fs are roughly twice the cost of the 60s. But the reason I’m asking is that there are two time sensitive deals I could consider and so far my auditioning has brought the Contour 60s and Persona 5Fs to the front of the line in terms of connecting me to the music, and not having the opportunity to audition the 7Fs in person I’m trusting they maintain everything I liked about the 5F with the addition of improved bass.

Room and System...

I have a 21 x 18 room with nine foot ceilings which opens up to the house. When my renovation is done the back wall will basically be gone meaning the room will effectively be 21 x 40 (as it will open into the kitchen and breakfast room with just a support-column in the way). The speakers will be on the long wall (21 foot wall) which got rid of boominess with my current full range speakers versus when the stereo was setup along the shorter 18 (and the configuration needs to stay this way with the equipment and speakers along the 21 foot wall). I've got a Hegel H30 amp which is connected by Ansuz Carbon XLR cable’s from a Hegel HD30 dac. I'll probably be upgrading speaker cable’s on the future once the new speakers settle in. No preamp yet (dac has volume control).

I can space the speakers 8-12 feet apart and up to 3-4 feet away from the front wall, and I can sit 10-12 feet back (without a major furniture re-arrange).

Listening...

I love rock and so the final speaker choice needs to be dynamic and play loud when asked with satisfying bass. I like to dance and listen when working around the house so good dispersion is important. Also when critical listening to singer/songwriter and jazz or vocalist music I’m an imaging freak and need holographic 3D soundstsging and natural sibilant free mids for female vocals. Also looking for airy highs to allow sounds to float in good recodings.

Despite their different price categories and different engineering philosophy, both these speakers hit those marks. Having auditioned in different environments with different gear, my take away is that the Dyns are authoritative but also musical and deliver warm mids with an astonishing level of micro resolution with no hint of brightness. The 5Fs I heard took the resolution even further and bass sounded more real... though the mids were less warm and the highs threatened to be bright if powered by forward sounding electronics (Attributes I’m assuming carry to the 7F). I worry that with gear that is neutral (Hegel) that the Personas might sound clinical or synthetic (an untested thought) though they really sang with the Meridian gear when I heard them. I should add I heard the Dyns with my Hegel gear so that’s a known synergy.

Since I can’t audition in my home prior to purchase, and given the time sensitive nature of the deals I’ve been offered (Dyn C 60 vs Persona 7F)... your input is appreciated. Do I get the Dyns now and maybe upgrade later if not fully satisfied? Given my gear and room (which I could sound treat if needed) should I beg my partner for mercy and get the 7Fs with the belief that they could be "speakers for life"? I’m 46 and would much rather spend coming years experimenting with cables and preamps having a steady pair of transparent speakers that are anchors in my evolving system. Or would the Dyns possibly do that at 1/2 the cost?

Help!

Dave :)

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Any other thoughts on the Contour 60s?

I am thinking of putting them in a smaller room (I love bass), 12 x 16 x 8.. and I already have 2x 18 inch subs that I use with paradigm sig s8 v2. Love the bass in the room and really enjoy my sig s8s but I wonder if the contour 60 would be a step up.
@smodtactical

I owned the Contour 60’s for about a year. 12 x 17 room, 9 foot ceiling. Concrete floors with carpet and padding overneath. Dedicated listening room. GIK bass traps in all corners, treated etc.

They are good, not great. I like them leaps and bounds over the entire Persona Series.

Pros - Bass, and gobs of it. I like bass, and I even plugged a port (that was even in a treated room). It’s good quality bass also. Not the absolute tightest, but it’s punchy and gobs of it.

Neutral, yet with detail. Esotar Tweeter, it’s great.

Natural sounding, can be played very loud without compression, won’t hurt you at louder levels.

Cons - Soundstage is not the largest, I found myself constantly trying to get them to sound "Bigger" outside the edges (I like a real big soundstage, maybe even slightly exaggerated).

Break- In - First new speaker I’ve owned that I felt broke in.

Power - ignore the efficiency rating, they want current.

Speakers I was able to directly compare them to: (in the same store, or in my own home).

Salk Soundscape 8 - Dyns have better bass, Salks do the mids and highs a bit better, if you leave the back open the Salks soundstage is bigger. If you like running your subs with your mains, and blend them well - the Salks might be a better combo. If you want your mains to sound good and pound, the Dyns are very very good at that pricepoint.

Golden Ear Triton 1 - Dyns are better in the mids and highs, GE has a slightly bigger soundstage. Dyns look better (eye of beholder). Dyns need a LOT more power than the GE’s. Both can pound, Dyn’s have better defined bass.

Vandersteen Treo CT... tough call. Vandersteen has better mids and highs, and the bass they have is more defined, but the Dyns can out slam them any day of the week.

IF you want your mains to pound, for under 10k, new or used, with solid mids and highs (and not be more than say 5ish years old, my tier one would be...

Dyn Contour 60’s
Golden Ear - pick of the litter...
Ohm Walsh 5000’s - I REALLY like these for the money - incredible value, do things other speakers really struggle with (huge soundstage), and great bass. But, they are unique.
Legacy Signature and Focus SE series - (new or used)
JBL 4367 - won’t go as low as all of the above, but they can pound midbass on up.

Salk Soundscape 10/12 (used, tough to find, need power) - These might be my favorites. But really hard to find as they are out of production. They have the same/better highs than the soundscape 8’s, but have deep, defined, punchy accurate bass.

I like Rock, Blues and Reggae primarily. I like bass, and I tend to listen loud. I don’t like integrating my subwoofer with my mains though.

I think the Contour 60’s are better than the Triton 1’s, but I’ve not heard the 1R’s. I think the Legacy Focus SE is pretty similar to the Contour 60’s and Tritons with the overall package.

The Ohm Walsh 4000’s/5000’s - unique, but do some things just incredibly well with a huge soundstage, great coherance, no compression. But, more room dependent in some ways, but yet more tolerant in others.

4367 - Great Rock speaker

A speaker I recently demo'd you might like - Salk SS9.5 - similar midrange to the Contour 60, VERY smooth for a BE tweeter, better defined bass than the Contour 60, but not quite as much.  Big soundstage.  It's a really good speaker (with incredible finish options)

Soundscape 10/12 - Best overall speaker of all of the above IMO, but rare, out of production (though Jim Salk support is great), accurate but needs power.



Wow those two choices are really different sounding speakers!

Personal preference but I preferred Dynaudio house sound to that of Paradigm, and I’d venture even more so when driven by Hegel.

Dyn/Hegel seems like a pretty sweet pairing. I’d need a bit warmer electronics to get the Paradigm to work for me. 

Good luck
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