Pulsars and the Mythical Armchair Speaker Maker


There’s another thread going about Joseph Audio Pulsar speakers which I did not want to derail, but it is showing up some common logical fallacies and dead ends I wanted to talk about.


As anyone who has read my posts knows, I’m a huge proponent of DIY for speakers and cables especially. Not that I think you should only go with DIY but because the more audiophiles who can build their own we have in the community the less snake oil gets spread around as fact and there’s less worshipping of the price tag as the almighty determiner of speaker performance.


The myth I want to talk about is kind of related. It is the idea that we should value speakers based purely on driver cost. JA’s Pulsars suffer from this because they seem to use off the shelf components, in very nice cabinets, with perfectly executed crossovers. The thing that I don’t understand are buyers who look at driver cost, and say "well, these speakers should cost no more than x amount, so I’m not buying them... "


I call hogwash. Speakers are more than a collection of parts. They are curated components brought together by a designer and manufacturer. Those same people who are likely to engage in this behavior:

  • Can’t actually design a speaker themselves
  • Would NEVER build a DIY speaker even as a complete kit because it doesn’t have a brand, nor would they buy an assembled DIY speaker.
  • Would probably go with a speaker with in-house drivers which have an even higher markup
  • May not have very good ears anyway


My point is, knowing the price of the parts does not make you at all qualified to judge what the final price should be. That is, fairly, in the hands of the market, and it doesn’t actually make you a better listener or more informed buyer. I would argue you end up buying speakers for brands with even more of a markup and more likely to have questionable performance.


It’s perfectly reasonable for a manufacturer to charge for parts, and skill. So, yes, talking tech and drivers and crossover components is always fun, but please stop evaluating the price of finished goods until you’ve attempted at least designing one pair yourself.

And again, DIY is a lot of fun, and if you want to go that way, you should, but let’s not denigrate high value, high quality manufacturers and delers by reducing them to part assemblers any more than you'd judge a restaurant based on the cost per pound of chicken.


Thank you,

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A few additional factors to consider.  The DIY speaker guy is for the most part, designing a speaker to mate to his room, with his ancillary gear to please his ears with his music.  I have had the pleasure of listening to several "life time of design"  DIY speaker builds and they all sounded good, some sounded great.  Now take those 4 box/open baffle/line array/wide band with a woofer  et. al. designs out of the designer's room, haul them to another room or another house, hook them up with different amplification and sources.  Play different music.  Same results as the designer's system?  Bollocks! 
  The real trick for the commercial speaker designer is to come up with a design that sounds good to great in a ton of different rooms, with a ton of different amps, sources and on a lot of different music.  Guys like Jeff Joseph have a talent to create great sounding speakers that can work in a lot of environments, with a lot of sources, amplification and with a lot of different music.  Oh and they have to be able to replicate the design in some version of "mass production".   Create shipping cartons, design literature, market their designs, ship them, warrant them and the list goes on and on and on. 
  What if there was a way to leverage the DIY results ( your room, your, ancillary gear, your music) within the context of a commercial design? 
  There are a lot of examples of exactly that.  Legacy Speakers, the new Bryston Active models, Gayle Sanders new designs, Siegfried Linkwitz speakers all have at least some user adjustable parameters to allow them to perform in a variety of set ups and locations.  
  Full Disclosure, I am an audio retailer.  Only one of the above manufacturers do I represent.  Joseph Audio is not it. 
  DIY is a great avenue for the listener who wants to participate in their own system's design.  The knowledge gained can be invaluable.  It is also a lot of fun.  DIY builds are not generally intended to be sold to a wide swath of the audio community and therefore are not constrained by the myriad of concerns faced by a commercial design. 

Guys like Jeff Joseph have a talent to create great sounding speakers that can work in a lot of environments, with a lot of sources, amplification and with a lot of different music.  

No they dont. Commercial speakers do not satisfy every audiophile. Thats why there are dozens of choices
Kenjit,

    So what you are saying is that speaker designers like Jeff do not have talent?  Do not create speakers that can work in a lot of environments, with a lot of sources, amplification and lots of different music? 
  At no point did I ever even come close to stating that "Commercial speakers satisfy every audiophile". 
 
all speakers diy or not are highly room dependent. Whats special about the pulsar that makes it less room dependent?
So the question for Kenjit remains, why are you not designing, building, marketing, and selling your own speakers that equal or out perform the Pulsars for far less money? It is a piece of cake, right? Have you ever heard the Pulsars?