Will a subwoofer add depth and clarity to my system, or just bass?


hi folks,
I just purchased a set of Focal Aria 906 speakers with stand, powered by a Bluestream PowerNode (not my ideal system but I had a limited budget).  I think it sounds really good, but am wondering if an upgrade to a subwoofer is worth it, and if so, what would pair well with this system -- my audio guy recommended the JL Audio D110 10" Dominion Subwoofer, but that's out of my price range.  Perhaps a SVSPB1000, for $499?  My room isn't very big, and I don't use the system for movies, just listening to mostly jazz and rock (and classical).
Thank you!
jazz99
Tim—With respect to the use of subwoofers to reduce room-related resonances, hey, the more, the better! Of course, most listeners have constraints that prevent adding more than two subwoofers to a modest-sized listening room. Certainly two is my limit, and I suspect that two subs is as much as most people would tolerate.

Regarding location: Assuming a front wall position (that's the normal personal preference), and given that such subs should be OUTSIDE the main speakers, a 16 ft. wide listening room (such as mine, also yours) would then dictate that the subs be in the corners—or virtually so. In that event, some toe-in would likely be helpful. In practice, decor-dictated personal concerns will probably determine where the two subs must go, and that's generally in the corners too, as they're likely be the only open area.

The "distributed array" concept is worthy with one notable exception: It generally (?) recommends leaving the main speakers UNfiltered. While that can be beneficial with respect to reducing low frequency room mode response, it ignores the primary benefit implicit when using an active electronic crossover to separate the ultra-low (<100Hz) bass passband (subwoofers) from the low-&-mid bass passband (main speakers). That separation assures that the main speakers (and their power amplifier) no longer have to process any heavy low bass energy. Those low bass frequencies now get shunted to the self-powered subs. That's an important advantage, and it's way too vital to bypass.
@vtvmtodvm --

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The "distributed array" concept is worthy with one notable exception: It generally (?) recommends leaving the main speakers UNfiltered. While that can be beneficial with respect to reducing low frequency room mode response, it ignores the primary benefit implicit when using an active electronic crossover to separate the ultra-low (<100Hz) bass passband (subwoofers) from the low-&-mid bass passband (main speakers). That separation assures that the main speakers (and their power amplifier) no longer have to process any heavy low bass energy. Those low bass frequencies now get shunted to the self-powered subs. That’s an important advantage, and it’s way too vital to bypass.

Glad to see this pointed out, because it’s an important benefit high-passing the mains as suggested. To quote:


Some audiophiles don’t want to introduce yet another active "thing" in their precious signal path, not realizing that adding the crossover is very much the lesser of two evils.

Actually adding a crossover is really a WIN-WIN situation:

WIN # 1) Since you are now NOT putting in 20 Hz - 80 Hz into the mains you are not using up the available LF cone movement with bass, so the LF cone in your mains is able to play its higher freqs (up to IT’S crossover point) much more cleanly. You get an apparent 6dB or more dynamic range. You can play your system LOUDER, and also with less compression distortion in the LF driver when you’re having that Saturday night dance party and you’re playing urban bass technopop at 110+ dB. Really.

WIN # 2) Since you are not putting bass into that same driver you are not Doppler modulating everything between 80 and 600, or whatever the next crossover point is. This means cleaner mids. By far.

WIN #3) You are not sucking current out of your main power amp at low frequencies, so there is more current reserve to play those highs louder...

WIN # 4) Since the cones aren’t moving as far at the low freqs the driver itself is not generating as much back EMF therefore the damping factor and all of its issues are greatly negated. And you don’t need to run silver plated cold water pipes to your mains as speaker wires because there is less current draw by the speakers.

WIN # 5) Freqs below 80 are now NOT causing transient intermodulation distortion with the higher freqs (and vice versa) in your power amp. Cleaner still.

http://www.soundoctor.com/whitepapers/subs.htm

You also, with your earlier post, pointed to the importance of the distinction between phase and timing, the latter aspect being my main issue with the multiple sub arrangement, which has coverage as its main goal (and not uniform time-of-arrivals). I’ll vouch for the importance of using only a limited degree, if any PEQ while having fairly uniform coverage via the much lauded, even preached-about-as-the-gospel mono-coupled 4-sub approach, but I find placing dual subs symmetrically to the mains, in true stereo, can hold a distinct sonic advantage, and this doesn’t rule out finding a placement that takes into consideration successful coverage with zero to limited PEQ; it may take more effort, but it’s (added) time I’ll gladly invest for the summed-advantage outcome.

For some reason stereo bass appears to be a controversial issue, with many claiming quite rigorously that the directionality of frequencies below some 80Hz goes out the window, and while I find there’s some merit to this (certainly insofar audibility goes) there are phasing differences nonetheless (when stereo information in the bass is found in the source material) that are clearly felt when running dual subs in stereo. This can come forth as a deliberate effect via especially electronica/techno music, and as an "illumination" of ambience in particular with classical music. Being audiophiles, many of whom I gather listens to classical music as well, why would you not take advantage of this?
LOTS of good information above. Read it, try the ideas and draw your own conclusions.
My experience with subs has been good. Depending on your speakers, a sub can add a more solid foundation for the rest of the music. Can't build a great house on sand!
I currently have Merlin TSMs and a REL Strata III which are all sealed cabinets. Pairing sealed subs and speakers is easier because of the sharp roll off sealed cabinets present. If I could find a well preserved version of that same sub I'll buy it.

Vtvmtodvm wrote:

"The "distributed array" concept is worthy with one notable exception: It generally (?) recommends leaving the main speakers Unfiltered."

Whether or not filtering the main speakers is desirable depends on the specifics of the situation. The same is true with ANY subwoofer system.

The amplifier included with the Swarm and DEBRA systems has a fixed 80 Hz 2nd order line-level highpass filter built in, so the option is always there.

If there’s a worthwhile benefit to the main speakers from using it, then by all means use it! If not, then why not leave it out of the signal path?

Duke

designer of the Swarm