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Is There Greener Grass For Me?

I have owned an Onkyo TXSV515PRO for about 15 years. I have upgraded most other components in a modest AV system, but not the Onkyo. We use the AV system for audio only as it relates to TV programming and DVD play – there is no CDP involved – all music being played in a separate, dedicated 2-channel room.

Currently, the system consists of:
TV - Mitsubishi WS-65413 – 65” projection
Front Speakers – PSB Stratus Goldi’s
Rear Speakers – PSB Alpha Mini
Center Channel (own but not currently used) – PSB 9C
DVD - Zenith DVB318

Now. I am not trying to assemble a SOTA system in any way, shape, or form. However, I do not care much for the separation provided by the Onkyo, especially front to rear balance (regardless of how the speakers are positioned). Too, if something like a great performance on Soundstage or an audio DVD is used, the sound is a bit thin when cranking the volume. I’ve had these speakers in two-channel systems and they are not exactly what I’d call thin. As such, I am wondering if I could improve things much by using a different power/processor – or maybe given the level of all else I should just leave things alone.. I’d STRONGLY prefer a one-piece unit, as opposed to separates, due in part to space limitations. Don’t need a tuner which is provided in the Onkyo receiver. Appreciate suggestions in the $2K new, $1K used range. Obliged to all for their consideration – whether or not you choose to respond.
4yanx
4yanx OP
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So if I were to consider components, instead, what would be a preproc of choice - keeping in mind that it is almost exclusively to be used for TV and DVD movies and I do not need a tuner. In doing research, I am beginning to lean more to an amp/pre combo.
reubent
6,939 posts
 
4yanx,

If it's only for TV and DVD and you want to keep it at $2K new or $1K used, I personally wouldn't suggest separates. How about the Arcam AVR-300? It's a little over $1K used, but it has gotten excellent reviews for both music and HT. It should sound great with those music videos and TV concerts. It is capable of powering 7 channels, but so are almost all of the new receivers. Simply don't use the extra channels.

I'll revert back to one of my earlier choices. The B&K AVR-202 might be a good unit for you. It is a 5.1 receiver and only lacks DPL-II. This may not even be an issue unless you watch a lot of analog TV. The HD and Digital channels typically have discrete Dolby Digital tracks, so DPL-II isn't really too important. But for under $600, the B&K might really do it for you. If it doesn't, re-sell it. You couldn't really loss more than a few bucks as the previous owner(s) have already eaten the depreciation from the $2800 original price ($1800 on closeout after the 307 was introduced).

Enjoy,

TIC
4yanx OP
1,576 posts
 
Thanks. I may also consider an Adcom GFR-700.
elevick
2,636 posts
 
The tuner doesn't really get in the way in most units. So, internally a pre/pro/amp won't be much different than a receiver. TIC's suggestion of the Arcam is great. It and the B&K 507 are way beyond most of the average receivers.

If you are using this for tv (cable or dish) DPL II should be a priority! Your system will end up defaulting to DPL II any time a signal isn't 5.1. DPL II is way beyond DPL. For that reason, some of the components that you may consider to be of lesser audio quality may do a nice job with TV than some older high end units (ie B&K 202 vs a new NAD/Denon/Marantz/Rotel/Adcom/sony ES). Also, newer units seem to have a lot more power these days.

One thing to be careful of is size. Check your cabinet or shelf first. Many units are so wide and deep that once you hook up all of the connections, they don't fit. Sqeezing everything into 1 box makes it huge. Seperates are usually a little more compact and can be split up.

My last comment is that almost any newer receiver for $1000 will crush your older onkyo. Borrow a demo and see what you are missing.
4yanx OP
1,576 posts
 
Elevick. I hear thee. I am borrowing a piece from a friend beginning tomorrow. I don't have the heart to audition from a brick-and-mortar when I know I will be buying elsewhere - not that this is what I thought you were suggesting - just saying in general.

Trouble is, I KNOW that once I do the research and buy one of these receivers, I will be pining for upgrades - just like in my 2-channel system which, thankfully, I am now satisfied. So, it is either not upgrade at all or do it on the used so I can get my dough back when the upgrade bug inevitably comes to call. :-)
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