Durand record weight ha ha ha ha - and other crazy thing


I heard that a Durand record weight costs 3500 USD. - that is just bonkers - we are truly entering the twilight zone of hi-fi - sorry.
can anyone else think of similarly stupid products
lohanimal
I find that the need for a record weight's make-up is due to each individual recordings' misgivings, not the TT one plays that record on.
astro58go
185 posts
09-04-2016 2:34pm
I find that the need for a record weight's make-up is due to each individual recordings' misgivings, not the TT one plays that record on.

Interesting.  

To: geoffkait

You couldn't use this or any other clamp on a CD player because of the weight.

The CD mechanism is not designed for this

rogerabbit
7 posts
09-05-2016 2:01pm
To: geoffkait

"You couldn’t use this or any other clamp on a CD player because of the weight.

The CD mechanism is not designed for this."

I beg to differ, Mr. Rabbit. The Sony SACD player (I forget the model number) actually comes with a relatively heavy brass weight. Surely there are others. Besides all CD transports rattle like hell. They should do SOMETHING.

Astro58go

 As far as ct0517's remark from his TT's manufacturer.. well, I did not find any relevance.


Astro58go
I just saw your comment. Allow me to elaborate better. I like talking shop even though I am not in audiophile mode anymore. Would however prefer tech talk be brought to a general thread..  

Lets acknowledge that with a record weight/clamp at least 2 things can be affected.

1) The TT performance itself - the gear aspect.

2) The musicians recorded performance on the lp. If your record is coupled well to the platter well (no slipping), whether you are using a weight or not, the presentation of the music should be good. Unless it is Kind of Blue  :^)   or other lp that has known speed issues. 

Prior to my communications with the manufacturer I was up to that point familiar only with traditional mechanical bearing turntables.  And, in my experiences to that point the bearing type played a big part in what we hear due to its resonances - especially with a record weight/clamp that is coupled to the spindle.
For example - change just the bearing type (material) the presentation changes. Change the fluid the bearing sloshes around in and again the presentation changes again.  Both 1 and 2 above can be affected by this. Anyone that has changed out the bearing material or its fluid viscosity has heard this.  Likewise using a good record, lets say flat to the eye and not visually off centered, does not slip based on what you hear;  the use of different record weights/clamps changes the overall TT sonic presentation - with mechanical bearing TT's.   Tweaking - imagine the possibilities for the audiophile.

Now I did not understand what the manufacturer meant until I experienced it personally myself. Magnetic and also air bearings ( I base this on my tonearm) provide a level of isolation over a traditional mechanical bearing. So the effects of a record weight itself not as evident in the "Gears" overall sonic presentation - category 1. Using a record weight/clamp became just a process to couple a record better to the platter to realize better recorded performance in the music - category 2. Not as much to tune the overall sonic performance of the turntable. My experience.

Hopefully that explains better where I was coming from with the comments. Either way enjoy your journey.