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"Bedini Ultra Clarifier", does it really work??

I got into a pissing contest over this question on another forum site. I would like to get opinions from those of you that have the Clarifier or even those of you that have heard a red book CD spun on the Bedini Clarifier.

Set up,
When I clean a red book CD, with the Clarifier, I always do both sides. If my memory serves me right that is what the instruction manual says to do. I also let the CD spin the full 45 seconds on each side.

I contend the Bedini Ultra Carifier does indeed work. How it works I haven't the foggiest idea.

The sure way to prove it works is to take two red book CDs of the same artist and Title. Listen to both to make sure they sound the same. Spin one in the Clarifier and do an A/B comparison of the two discs. Let me note here I realize that not all CDs are created equal. If a red book CD already sounds good thru your loud speakers then the clarifier will not make a difference. Or very little at best. But to the other extreme if a CD sounds compressed, bassi, bass loose muddy, highs rolled off, a dead sounding CD, The Clarifier will make an improvement.
Thanks for your input.

Jim
jea48
plinko
254 posts
 
If you do that you wouldn't have any differences if you did that. You need a real switch unit to do that. I still haven't seen real double blind test results for any of these snake oil products. If it works for you great. My will always be that it doesn't work until I see a real test.
plinko
254 posts
 
actually you're right. I was thinking of comparing two cd players from a discussion in another forum. I still haven't seen a real double/triple blind test of this. anyone have any links?
praudio
39 posts
 
Plinko; a simple muting switch ! et voila same level before and after.
jea48 OP
4,313 posts
 
Theo, the lit says to clean both sides of the CD each time you play it, but I don't. It takes several repeated plays for the disc to start to show any degrade, in my opinion.

Tonyptony, I did basically the same thing. Friends that have the same Cds as I. We have listened to them on their systems and on mine. The results were always the same. The clarified disc sounded better. And we left the volume control set in the same place, as I am sure you did also. There was no reason to change it.

Davehrab, What you say about the label, seems to have legs. I think that is the reason you spin both sides of the CD. Any time I buy a CD with a dark colored label the Bedini will improve the CD. One of the worst CDs that sounded dead on my system was "O Brother, were art thou". The label is black. A spin in the Bedini improved it greatly. Even Diana Krall, Love Scenes sounded better after cleaned. This disc also a black label. Another Krall disc,The Girl in The Other Room. Dark red label. I do not want to leave the impression the Krall discs did not sound very good before cleaned, The Bedini did make a slight improvement. Krall's voice was fuller, richer sounding. Piano was more open and natural. Bass was even a little tighter.
tonyptony
614 posts
 
Jea48, thanks for the report. My feeling is that if my friend doesn't see what CD I'm putting in (he didn't) and the equipment was exactly the same each time (it was) then it means something, at least. No, it's not a double blind A-B or A-B-X test, but I'm not sure in a case like this it's necessary. As for the Clarifier possibly doing something to the volume, maybe that's part of the point: if the Clarifier actually does something to CDs that causes the volume difference to be on the order of .2-.5 dB (based on my experience around the point where some people can reliably start to tell a difference) then it must definitely be doing SOMETHING to the disc! If that's all it's doing then somebody explain HOW?!
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