Mcintosh Vs Proceed


I am currently looking into purchasing a new amplifier in the 300 watt range. I am looking into the Mcintosh MC352 or the Proceed HPA2. I will be using it mostly for music, but also movies. I am currently using Canton Ergo 122's and a Sony Digital processor. I listen to all types of music mostly classical and soundtracks.
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They're both good products, you are the only judge for what qualities you will find pleasing. Some years ago I owned a McIntosh 2205 and loved its power and its looks, not to mention it was built like a tank. My opinion is that you really wouldn't be making a mistake with either McIntosh or Proceed.
I live in Ft. Worth, and visit Marvin's Electronics on a monthly basis (many of my friends work there). I cannot remember the Mac equipment numbers, but it was a home theater setup of Mac vs. Proceed, with B&W 801's for the front and 805's for rears (nautilus center). On the Mac side, the 801's were driven with a 600 wpc stereo amp, and the rears and center with a 5 channel amp (the rears were bi-amped). The Proceed side was the AVP, with HPA2 and HPA3 powering the speakers. Both ran with a Proceed DVD transport. By FAR, the proceed trumped the Macs in almost every category. More visceral, more lifelike, more palpable. I like Mac gear (been ogling over Marvin's Mac MC2000 for years), but it doesn't really shine vs. the proceed. After listening to The Eagles "Hell Freezes Over" DVD (DTS of course!) on the Proceed equipment, I would quickly become disinterested in the Mac stuff. Now Mr. Shuster (any one of them...the store is co-owned by three generations of Shusters) would DEFINTELY try to put you into the Mac stuff in that store (cuz he's got it), but I think that they really cozy up to the Mac distributor at that store (same with Gray's power Company...which I hate). But don't listen to me, this is all IMHO. Listen to both and judge. You'll be pleasantly surprised.
I sold the MCintosh line for quite some time. I've only heard the proceed pieces in mention in other store demo's, and would have to say that, yes, they both make some good sounding pieces between the two companies. I'd say the Mac is a bit warmer and bodied over all, while the Proceed usually has a bit more top end energy usually, and is less warm in the midrange. The Proceed comes across more like Krell gear to me, and the Macintosh a bit more like a mix between Theta and Classe to me!! In ultimate terms, the Proceed's are probably a bit more extended and finished on top, giving a bit more air and top end detail (a smidgen). The Mac MC352 is not the last word in top end extension, but is 98% of the way there. Your key is going to be finding the balance with your system needs.
I'd have to say however that, as far as reliablity and quality control goes, I don't think the Macintosh stuff is as tight as perhaps it once was!!...?
At the very least, during the period of one year, we had severl Mac pieces go back defective out of the box!!! Preamp's, amp's, pre/pro's, and CD/dvd players!!! We never even had as many problems with the Parasound or Adcom stuff we sold more of!!!...seriously!
I must say though, the Mac stuff is nice when it's working (ha). It mates well with a lot of higher end speakers (that tend to be a little on the analytical side sometimes). I like the Mc352 amp enough, and it sounded really good on things like NHT 3.3's, and Maggies. I think the Proceed stuff alway's tended to sound a bit dry and zippy if not properly matched with gear. Not to play it down, it's just not recessed in the slightest, and it's balance tends to be unfriendly with some of the more neutral, dry, or analytical set-ups.
If you need warmth and body, I'd say a functioning Mac would do (they should take care of any problem should it arrise. Infact scream and yell if they don't!) fine. If it's a wamish bodied speaker (Vandies, B&W's, Alon, Celestion, Sonus, M. Logan, etc) who isn't so easliy tipped into brightness (i.e., Thiel's, Maggies...Revel's are marginal), I think you'll do well with the Proceed...if these are you're choices.
Haven't heard your speakers though, so maybe you could describe the character and catagorize em yourself!
Have fun...
I sold my Mark Levinson 331 to buy the 352 because it sounded more balanced and natural. Built like a tank and good looking too.