Will tubes rock?


I have to get a new amp, my acurus A150 was destroyed in a recent move (don't ask). What survived of the move were my spicas, acurus ACD-11 and parasound pre.
I keep seeing great deals on tube amps, and wondered if as a class I should be auditioning these during my search. I've heard some Cary and VTL products in systems that sounded wonderful but were way out of my league. 70% of my collection is rock with less than stellar recording...the rest is jazz, folk, and orchestral. Any thoughts?
pinetop14a89e
Pinetop:

Dunno if this exactly qualifies, but for my secondary system I am running an older (like 15 yrs?) NYAL Moscode 300. It's a hybrid tube amp (tubed input stage, ss output) and I have found the thing it does best is rock! It's no slouch on classical and jazz, just lacking in the crisp definition I'd gotten used to on my primary system. But feed this amp a little r-n-r and crank up the pots and yikes - "you are there"! I also think that comparative lack of definition helps with the poorer recording by emphasizing tone over detail. For example - I have a cd with horrible sibiliance (demo cd by a co-workers' spawn recorded by technically challenged friends) but on the NYAL it is significantly less distressing to listen to, even at rock volume. The trade-off is that (again, comparatively) the bass notes tend towards sliding into place, rather than snapping from note to note. I am listening to a good recording of Tchaikovsky's "Romeo and Juliet" the Fantasy Overture, as I write this, it has a kettle drum pounding away at one point and it sounds like a staccato rumble - you hear each individual beat, yet the overall effect is a constant throb. With Led Zepplin (musical tastes run the full spectrum in this house) I may not hear the pluck of the string, but I do get the full bass line underneath it all, and for most rock recordings that's all you're likely to get anyway (said with a grin, folks!). Naturally, results vary (the bass "slide" is less pronounced on Paradigm Monitor 9's than on Silverline SR-17's, but the 'digms are only down to 46hz, while the SR-17's work down to 38hz, and I am flying sub-less here).

That's a long answer that only needed to say "Yes, tubes can rock, and be forgiving of source material". But hey, I've had two cups of coffee already.

chas
Using my Sonic Frontiers SFS-40 with Paradigm Studio Monitors (the big guys!) in my 17' by 12' by 7.5' living room I can honestly say that for rock music it just didn't cut it. My Bryston B-60 was a much better match when the volume needed to be upped a little. But your speakers are probably an easier load and if your room is on the small side, a medium powered tube amp like mine could be enough for you. The biggest area that suffered with the tube amp (if you can call it suffering - it still sounded good), was bass slam and ultimate control. The mids and highs here gorgeous!. My advice would be to get a good sounding solid state amp that has the power you need, and only buy tubes if you can afford big beefy tube amps where power is not a concern. A used pair of Sonic Frontiers SFS-80s (monoblocs) might be the ticket. Hope this helps.

Allen
Pinetop, what Spicas do you have? I would concur with the Rogue monoblocks. Also, VAC PA160 monoblocks are an excellent value on the re-sale market if you can find them (I prefer the MkI's to the MkII's). Also check out the Mesa Baron -- maybe the rockingest (new word?) "affordable" tube amp out there.
Almost all guitar amps used by rock bands are tube amps.If they are good for these guys there good for everone.I use Rogue 120 rock with the best of them.