Who thinks $5K speaker cable really better than generic 14AWG cable?


I recently ordered high end speaker, power amp, and preamp to be installed in couple more weeks. So the next search are interconnect and speaker cable. After challenging the dealer and 3 of my so called audiophile friends, I think the only reason I would buy expensive cable is for its appearance to match with the high end gears but not for sound performance. I personally found out that $5K cable vs $10 cable are no difference, at least not to our ears. Prior to this, I was totally believe that cable makes a difference but not after this and reading few articles online.

Here is how I found out.

After the purchase of my system, I went to another dealer to ask for cable opinion (because the original dealer doesn't carry the brand I want) and once I told him my gears, he suggested me the high end expensive cable ranging from $5 - 10K pair, depending on length. He also suggested the minimum length must be 8-12ft. If longer than 12ft, I should upgrade to even more expensive series. So I challenged him that if he can show me the difference, I would purchase all 7 AQ Redwood cables from him.

It's a blind test and I would connect 3 different cables - 1 is the Audioquest Redwood, 1 is Cardas Audio Clear, and 1 my own generic 14AWG about 7ft. Same gears, same source, same song..... he started saying the first cable sound much better, wide, deep, bla...bla...bla......and second is decently good...bla...bla...bla.. and the last one sounded crappy and bla...bla...bla... BUT THE REALITY, I NEVER CHANGED THE CABLE, its the same 14AWG cable. I didn't disclosed and move on to second test. I told him I connected audioquest redwood but actually 14AWG and he started to praise the sound quality and next one I am connected the 14awg but actually is Redwood and he started to give negative comment. WOW!!!! Just blew me right off.

I did the same test with 3 of my audiophile friends and they all have difference inputs but no one really got it right. Especially the part where I use same generic 14awg cable and they all start to give different feedback!!!

SO WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? OR I AM THE LAST PERSON TO FIND OUT THAT EXPENSIVE CABLE JUST A RIP OFF?
sautan904
Good analogy paieta. I can see both sides, but there IS both sides. To say that cables do not matter is to say that one is satisfied with compromises. Nothing at all wrong with that as long as it is acknowledged and understood.

I love listening to 60’s/70’s/80’s rock on my vintage system with Monster 12 gauge speaker wire and a Pioneer 10-band EQ. It sounds awesome. But when it comes to reproducing music with the intent of creating realism, I hold no pretenses as to its limitations.

Dave
Once I was at my dealer and we made tests with some interconnects and speaker cables of the same company we started with their cheapest one and ended with the most expensive one and the results of this test was very clear the expensive ones were much better ,the difference between the most cheap cable to the most expensive one was like a day and night.

IMO it’s  wrong to jump to a conclusion that there is no difference between cables just because a dumb dealer that clearly doesn’t have a clue what he is selling and just want to make $$$ .
There is definitely differences between different cables and even between different lengths of the same cable. That does not however necessarily mean that the more expensive cable always sound better in a given system when compared to a cheaper one. It does not need to be "the shorter the better" either as the stability of the amp is dependent on the impedance of the load. In the worst case scenario using inappropriate cables can even turn your amp into a powerful high frequency oscillator blowing it and/or your speakers to smithereens. In particular the Rotel RB-890 is prone to spontaneously self destruct in this way but almost any amp can be turned into an oscillator by connecting an unsuitable load.

I have done a lot of installations and have found that any good 2.5mm2 (AWG13) OFC speaker cable with (preferably) PE insulation works well for general purposes up to at least 30m (100'). It's a good compromise between performance and price. Thinner cables restrict the bass and thicker is not so much better that it justifies the higher cost.

For serious HiFi where one has spent $10K+ on amp and speakers one should of course consider spending a little bit more on cables but always on a try-before-you-buy basis. Just because one cable is more costly to manufacture than another it does not automatically make your system sound better.

It can, in fact, even make it sound terrible! One must always try cables out and then (only if they sound better, of course) ask oneself this question: Is this improvement worth the higher price? If the new cables you are testing are cheaper it's an easy decision: Keep them and sell your old overpriced cables to some sucker…

Don't EVER take it for granted that a higher price is equal to better quality! The HiFi-industry is littered with overpriced products and some of them are just crap. I don't want to mention any brands but I have compared expensive IC-cables to cheap ones and found the cheaper to be better as well as a CD-player costing $6K sounding truly awful when compared to one costing only $2K so beware that there are people out there trying to rip you off. That's the way it is and you have to use your ears and common sense to decide who is gonna get your hard-earned money. 

Dizzy Gillespie once said: "If it sounds good it is good..."
His concern was the music, not the equipment used to record it!
He was of course right! What the musicians are playing is far more important than "the sound" of different cables, amps etc… 
A sobering thought! :-)

Happy New Year everybody!

Depends om your system too. I can hear the difference between cables . "But" does not justify the price !! My research has taught me that basic cables from , Purist , Kimber, wireworld . Work fine . Yes the 10,000 buck Nordest ribbin speaker cable sound very nice indeed .Looks pretty to . Who has that type of money today. My Christmas is donated 200 bucks to the Church for there soup kitchen . Not making China rich . I have old pair of JBL 4311 speakers 40 bucks at a garage sale , nad cd player . about to buy a tube amp any suggestions 1 and 3 grand ?
You could consider a Dynaco ST70 that has been recently checked out.

It is the greatest selling amp of all time and still considered very musical.