And Henry, there are only so many question marks available in the Universe. You are using them up rapidly.LOL
There are many more question marks in the Antipodes Lew, than on your side of the world?.........and also.......full-stops :^)
Who needs a MM cartridge type when we have MC?
Raul, We six of us don't doubt your intentions however Nandric and Lewm have a point...........your alerts can do nothing more than inflate the prices of MM cartridges which a lot of us have found on EBay by ourselves? Is that your intention? Do you really wish to cause an increase in the prices of these scarce vintage MM cartridges? |
Once again I am in agreement with Lewm......... this is becoming worrying Lew :-) I also am 'full-up' with about 18 MM cartridges (and have even sold 3 or 4 back into the market) so it really doesn't worry me personally, if the prices now rise? There must be thousands of old MM cartridges 'out there' and we 'aficionados' of this sect are really a minute market in the overall scheme of analogue....let alone audio? So I'm not really concerned about a 'permanent' bounce in the market place. What does concern me is that the 'new' or inexperienced 'silent majority' on this Forum........those that are reading and absorbing but are as yet unable to contribute........may find themselves bidding against like-minded ingenues due to Raul's 'alerts', and consequently end up paying double the realistic value of a 40-50 year old cartridge? I saw this happen with a Nagatron 9600E a few weeks ago (which Raul had publicised) and watched as 2 bidders pushed this cartridge past $360.00! These regularly used to trade for less than $200. I suspect the eventual buyer may have been inexperienced and as a result has paid 'over the market'. Now Raul will say that $360 is still a good price compared to current LOMCs but this cartridge is over 40 years old and is used. Its suspension, cantilever and stylus may all be 'suspect' so it is a 'risk' for the purchaser until he hears it in his system and all proves to be well? If the purchaser decides that he doesn't in fact really like the cartridge, he can usually re-sell on EBay and generally not lose too much on the transaction however on the price paid for this Nagatron, I doubt that the 'market' will return his investment? So who in fact 'wins' from this Raul 'alert'? The wise 'ingenue' will have made a list of all the 'regular' recommendations which come up on this Forum and will himself be scouring EBay on a daily or weekly basis (auctions normally run for 10 days so there is usually plenty of time) and be bidding on a number of cartridges in a reasonable price range to 'dip his toes' into this 'sect'. The facts are that we will all pay less for those cartridges which don't get 'flagged' here, than we will for those that do. And just to question Raul's stated altruism in recommending directly on this Forum........I seriously question whether he has ever publicised a cartridge advertised on EBay prior to HIS bidding on that same cartridge? Now that would be foolish altruism n'est pas? :-) |
Regards Fleib and Raul, TK-10ML Can you tell if the stylus assembly of my cartridge is also unoriginal? This would explain, as Raul suggests, the 'sound' I was unimpressed by? |
A ‘killer’ MM cartridge for $130? In the 3 years since Raul began this thread (which incidentally converted me back to the ‘lost’ joys of the MMs I had once loved), most of the really fine recommended MM examples were from the golden era of analogue……the seventies and eighties. As these became harder to find, or in dubious condition, or increasingly expensive, or with replacement styli no longer produced, we bemoaned the fact that really good, modern MMs were not really being designed? The diminishing analogue market is probably the primary reason…….but I suspect that the ‘swamping’ of the serious analogue market by the MC behemoth is the secondary cause. Apart from Soundsmith, it seemed that a seriously ‘high-end’ MM modern design……..one which could compete with the vintage ‘classics’ promoted here by Raul, Timeltel and others…..would forever be a figment of forlorn hope? Enter the Audio Technica AT-7V at a cool $130 available from LPGear. For several years this cartridge has been available only in the Japanese market but has recently made a splash on AudioKarma Forums and as Timeltel gave me the ‘Heads Up’……I rushed in and so did he! What attracted us both I believe, is that the 7V body is based on (or is identical to) the motor design of the wonderful Signet range of TK-3,5 and 7 cartridges which he and I have been extolling over the past few months. I have had the AT-7V for the last 6 days and have not wanted to be premature in my evaluations, being careful to test it extensively against many of my valued cartridges. As the Professor’s enthusiasm indicates (and he and I appear to hear similar traits in our different systems), the 7V projects most of the extraordinary characteristics of the our beloved Signets. The immaculate midrange, full and palpable, dissolving seamlessly into a liquid, shimmering and airy treble which seems to ‘hang’ above and beyond the soundstage. The bass, deep and authoritative……perhaps not quite as well controlled as the famous TK-5 and 7…..yet not overwhelming. Slip in the AT-155LC stylus assembly and the change is complex and stunning. The soundstage heightens and deepens and the presentation takes on a refinement of subtle proportions. This is almost a ‘different’ cartridge to that with the standard stylus and I have not experienced such a change before. This is not to say that it’s a ‘better’ cartridge (for I can happily live with the standard 7V)…….it simply gives one two cartridges with the same body, but as the 155LC stylus assembly is no longer made and its availability is severely limited, this is mostly academic for those of you reading this. There are however, no free lunches as they say. The AT-7V is a ‘Prima Donna’……at least for the first 20-30 hours. Unlike Timeltel’s, my example was extremely sensitive to the arm on which it was mounted. It is the first cartridge of my collection, which did not like the Fidelity Research FR-64S tonearm, producing a mid-bass to midrange resonance probably caused by its high (35x10-6 dyne) compliance figures. It also initially produced lumpy, ill-defined bass until about 3 hours of use and its sound was constantly changing with any changes in VTA, SRA and VTF (they are all intimately connected of course). Mounted in the Micro Seiki MA-505S tonearm which allows for all these adjustments ‘on-the-fly’, I was finally able to ‘tame’ this recalcitrant performer. So those of you with high-mass tonearms like the Grahams and Triplanar (which simply don’t work correctly with high-compliance MMs), should stick to your LOMCs (the Reed and Copperhead arms are apparently fine). For those of you though, with medium to low-mass arms, who might have been following this thread but have yet to ‘take the plunge’ into ‘High-End’ MM cartridges…….what have you got to lose? $130 for a taste of what Timeltel and I have concluded is the ‘crème-de-la-crème’ of analogue sound? I would happily live with the AT-7V over the Empires, the ZYX Universe, the Dynavector XV-1s, the AT-20SS and possibly even the Technics EPC-100Mk3? As ever….YMMV. |
Dear Nicola, You can see most of the Signet variations on my Systems page, but before you begin an EBay hunt, please take the advice of a friend and purchase the AT7V. IMO you will hear all the 'magic' of the best Signets at a magical price. And Chris......if you are reading this.....I would suggest that you do the same? If you don't like what you hear, it will have cost you 'peanuts' and wasted little time? Cheers Henry |
Dear Raul, I really don't know the differences between 'static' compliance and 'dynamic' compliance? All I know is that most of my cartridges have only one compliance figure stated....10x10-6 dyne for the XV1s ranging up to 30x10-6 dyne for the Empires so I imagine that these are 'static' compliance figures which compare to the 35x10-6 dyne published for the AT7V? Regards Henry |
He'll be too busy as ambassador for the 7V to do any meaningful Guru work.LOL :-) It's all thanks to you my dear Professor.... Greetings Jim, My comments re: the 7V are with the 'stock' stylus assembly. The 155LC creates an entirely different 'cartridge' sound about which I shall write shortly. Firstly, an explanation of my preferences in cartridges (and audio generally), may go some way to illuminating my comments? To me, the midrange is the 'sine qua non' of all audio (reproduced or live). If the midrange is 'right', the rest are 'accessories'.......although the quality of the 'accessories' IMO, can explain the preferences for various components? In any 'live' event I have attended (particularly in intimate clubs), the 'impact' of the midrange.....particularly the human voice....is the first thing I notice. It hits you viscerally as the pressure-wave that it is, and it is almost always 'miked' or amplified. Even in tiny bars with a single singer at a piano, it is rare indeed to not have the voice amplified? And what is the sound of the unamplified electric guitar? And how can the unamplified human voice compete against a set of drums? This HP 'Absolute Sound' definition of "unamplified instruments in real space" has done perhaps more harm than good IMHO, and is generally irrelevant to 90% of the music we experience and like to listen to. But I digress. The reproduction of the midrange is the essential difference I hear, between MM cartridges and MCs. Generally, the ease, naturalness and palpability of the midrange with MMs seems to elude most MCs and those that manage it, can’t disguise the struggle to achieve it? Someone like J.Carr may be able to comment more technically (and convincingly) on this aspect, but it is easy to overlook when all one listens to is MCs…..just as one who listens only to digital can become accepting of the limitations therein? So basically Jim, my favourite cartridges recreate the midrange as a ‘pressure-wave’ with all the ease, prominence and three-dimensionality of the ‘real thing’. The attributes of the bass ‘foundation’ and the high-frequency extension and transparency together with the soundstage (left to right and front to back) combine to ‘elevate’ those worthy cartridges into my ranking system. The AT7V gets the midrange ‘right’. It is prominent, detailed, mellow, and spacious with a palpability that is a signature of the Signet range. It is no slouch in the frequency extremes either and in its overall presentation, I find it slightly less ‘coloured’ than the Empires (which I love) but more ‘coloured’ than the Technics EPC100Mk3 (which I find hard to really love). At the price of $130 with brand new materials and readily available stylus replacements, I find it a ‘no-brainer’ in the ‘highly recommended’ basket. Just remember to load it at 47K ohms (or even 40K) with its standard stylus and be very patient with all adjustments during the break-in period. Cheers Henry |
Greetings Professor (Timeltel), You really are predictable in ‘rushing’ into the 155LC transplant on your AT7V :-) When you have some time, I implore you to go back to the stock stylus and give it some time to form some impressions as I am now doing with the 155LC stylus in the 7V. This has really been a shock to me after the 7V had completely run-in for several days (every day it sounded differently and needed tweaking until it settled). Previously I had believed that a cartridge had a ‘basic’ sound due to the design of its ‘engine’ and that the stylus shape and cantilever materials and suspension merely added refinements? When I pugged in the 155LC into the 7V body, everything was different. 1. The gain was significantly lower than the stock stylus requiring the volume knob to be turned to compensate. This is understandable if the moving magnet attached to the stylus assembly is less powerful? 2. The loading needed to be increased from 40K Ohms to 60K Ohms similar to my vintage Signets. 3. The VTF had to be decreased to 1.0Gm from the 1.7Gm used with the stock stylus. 4. The VTA and SRA had to be adjusted from those of the stock. And then the sound?……..an entirely different animal. More different to my ears than if I had swapped in an entirely different brand of cartridge. Did I like it more than the stock? No…..but I am giving it a few days for my ears to adjust. Now to you and Dlaloum, who have extensively researched and analysed the effects of stylus shape, cantilever material and suspensions, these changes must be understandable and vindication for all your postings, but could both of you please try to explain in ‘lay’ terms, why such vast differences are the responsibility of the stylus assembly? Cheers Henry |
Dear Raul, My AT-20SS Limited Edition had a brand new LPGear original replacement stylus (bought by me), and that was the only stylus I ever listened with. Before selling it, I broke the stylus by clumsily 'crushing' it in its cartridge case. This I have told you previously but you continue to ignore the fact. The Signet TK-10ML had either an original stylus or a genuine replacement. Your ability to determine the quality that others hear in their systems, from either pictures or brand names is truly outstanding? Yet you are apparently unable to 'remember' the sound of all your cartridges and previous equipment unless you have them actually playing in your current system? I can remember the sound DNA of all my previous cartridges stretching back 35 years as well as the sound of all my previous preamps and amps. If that is beyond your capabilities, it is indeed a disturbing admission? I am fully aware that the Empires are designed to be loaded at 100K Ohms but I am currently only able to load them up to 60K Ohms and yes......I can hear that they actually would benefit from the extra loading. However, since most others with MM phono stages have a fixed 47K Ohm loading with no ready ability to change, it would be foolish to deny them the joys of listening to vintage MM cartridges? Almost all my vintage MMs benefit from the higher 60K loading but current models I believe (especially the AT7V), are designed perfectly for 47K. |
Wayne, I appreciate your comments but it was really the Professor himself who alerted me to the AT7V. Timeltel has inspired me to search for all the vintage Signets and it is he who has done all the hard work.......and very thoroughly I might add. With all of Raul's EBay 'alerts' for increasingly rarer vintage cartridges, I was thrilled to find that Timeltel's discovery of a current model Signet-based cartridge ticked all the right boxes. I also suspected that there were a number of readers, like yourself Wayne, who simply had not the time or means to search and bid on the various internet sites but were eager to try an affordable MM cartridge which could compete with the 'legends' of the past? In my experience, I have found surprisingly, that there are only a few 'mismatches' between arm and cartridge despite the theory to the contrary. So my advice is to assume the best and try it. I think you will likely be pleased? Good luck. Henry |
Dear Nandric, Only 3 meals a day!? I have a friend (also of Polish lineage), whose chief claim to fame was discovering a meal that slotted seamlessly between breakfast and brunch :^) You realise also, that the Poles claim the Russians stole vodka from them?........vodka, as you know, being the Polish word for 'water' which possibly explains the demeanor of their citizens? Cheers |
Wayne, I will let the Professor speak for himself. With cartridges, I personally don't care what shape the stylus is if it does the job? I've had spherical styli ( particularly on MMs) which have sounded sublime. I've also had Shibata and Line Contacts which haven't floated my boat. I'm happy to admit that I couldn't tell you in a 'blind' listening test, what shape the stylus is? I think perhaps the Professor could? For myself, it's the bottom line that counts and I've certainly learnt over the past 5 years, that 'dogma' in audio, is generally untenable. |
Dear Professor, Did you realise when you posted that 'EBay link' on the TK-10ML......that it was lifted directly from this Forum where I had written that exact description in one of my more 'reserved moments'? Why the Seller should choose such a 'flattering' description in attempting to sell the cartridge.......is an intriguing thought? Perhaps I should contact him to find out? |
Dear Raul, I think that maybe Thuchan's 'subjective' proposition relies on the fact that no matter how many 'objective' measurements you care to supply........if 'I don't like it' is the net response........what good is your objective evidence? To put it more bluntly........the cartridge that tracks your 'torture test' may still sound inferior to me, than the one which cannot manage that feat? |
A great article from the past that was just posted on Vinyl Asylum MM vs MC |
Thanks one and all for your best wishes. The knees are doing remarkably well and I should be home next Tuesday :^) Much listening to catch up on. I am slightly embarrassed Acman, to report my findings on the Signet MR-5.0lc as I fear the reaction of 'rolled eyes'.........."Here he goes again....another COTM!?" Timeltel has maliciously ensnared me hoping I will make a typically provocative statement at which point he intends to exit Stage Left :^} Unable to control myself of course.......I will be reporting my findings after they are confirmed under the influence of the morphine-derived pain-killers I currently enjoy on a regular basis :^) |
Dear Thuchan, It appears that you and I are hearing the same things with these wonderful Signet cartridges and the various styli options available? Even though we have totally different components, it appears that all our "distortions" are 'in alignment' and thus allow us to hear the beauty of analogue and in this case MM cartridges :^) And yes.....I fully agree with your conclusions that the FR-66S is remarkable with all these MMs in particular. Strange how science and measurements don't appear to explain much in audio reproduction? |
Dear Raul, You're right that we have many times discussed this arm/ cartridge resonance issue and it's true that you have always reported the facts as you've stated above. I think it good that many of us are 'simple' enough to try all our cartridges in all of our arms to determine the 'truth' for ourselves yet there are still those who write in these Forums, advising that the arm/cartridge resonance frequency should always be the 'beginning' for determining a 'match' when our experiences are showing it may have little, if any relevance? |
Dear Raul, I really do love your contributions........and this one is amongst the very best :^) But if I have to lie here in the rehab hospital after having both knees replaced and imagine you sitting naked in a darkened room...............my doctors, nurses and physios will have valid reasons to come looking for you :^} |
Aesthetics play a large part in my choices of equipment......especially tonearms. Mainly because of my training (architect), I can see a lot of the 'thought' processes expressed as the finished product. I have to agree with Nandric and T_bone about the FR-64s and FR-66s tonearm design. 'Form follows Function'.........? Yes indeed. Nothing extraneous or superficial, this rather 'Tuetonic' sparcity of design belies its Japanese origins. And do not underestimate the difficulty in 'sizing up' a design like the 9" 64s to a 12" 66s whilst maintaining appropriate proportions and aesthetics? However, this almost 'Brutalist' design response is hardly one I can 'love'. Admire and respect?.......absolutely. For emotional attachment, I can understand Geoch's attraction for the SAEC-WE308. This is audio 'jewelry' at its best and its delicacy and 'glitter' is in pure opposition to the design of the FR-6 Series. From a design point of view, I have always been attracted to the Dvnavector DV-505 series for its unabashed 'architectonic' expression. The 'visuals' of this design clearly demonstrate the importance of 'concept' leading 'function'. For further 'jewelry' combined with clear functionality, the Micro Seiki MA-505 is hard to surpass IMHO. The DaVinci 12" Ref Grandezza is amongst my favorites of the modern arms whilst the Continuum Cobra and Copperhead arms have introduced a revolutionary new visual to to this age-old design concept. This is always the hardest feat to ever pull off and the design community is well aware of this fact. |
Hi Danny, Great feedback on the 7V thanks. It seems your 'run-in' experiences match mine and I agree with you on the contrasts with the TK-7SU. The qualities you hear with the 155LC stylus appear to match Timeltel's which prompts me to try one of my three other 155LC assemblies in lieu of the one I originally slipped in? As we've learnt from the great contributions here...........the variations in styli assemblies can have a profound impact on the sound presentation of any particular cartridge? Cheers Henry |
Dear Professor, It has sometimes been intimated that my various comments can be 'on the warm side' of neutral which of course makes me a prime candidate for the advertising industry :^) I'm looking forward to the delivery of my TK-7Ea in order to transform it into a 7LCa. It will then be a heavyweight championship clash that my neighbours are dreading :^{ Cheers Henry |
Greetings Lew and Professor, I'm tickled that you like 'furphy'........I agree that its a bonza word especially here downunder. It always intrigues me when I read an audio review (mostly on cartridges, phono stages or pre-amps), where the Reviewer concludes that this component is so good and revealing, that it makes half your records sound bad!!? Don't buy this component they often warn, if you don't want to hear the weak links of your system? Say what??!! This component is SOOOO good....that it's bad?! Do these people think we are morons or is the world of audio circulating in a parallel universe where up is down and right is wrong? This is similar to the claim by Raul that a cartridge can sound so good (Wow) in our multiple systems.......but is really only 'average' because our systems have 'distortions'? Yet other cartridges which some of us find disappointing in our systems, are so good that they only sound bad because of these same unspecified 'distortions' in our systems? Huh?! Up is down.....right is wrong. A true furphy recognised as such by the official Australian Furphy Registration Board :-) |
Dear Raul, Your generalisations and comparisons are flawed and misleading. The Porsche 911 Carrera 4 is NOT a better car than the Carrera 2 despite it costing more and being a 'higher model' in the Porsche range? The Porsche GT2 is NOT a better car than the GT3 despite it costing more and being a 'higher model' in the Porsche range? A BMW M5 is NOT a better car than the M3 despite it costing more and being a 'higher model' in the BMW range? The FR7fc is NOT a better cartridge than the FR7f despite it initially costing more and being a 'higher model' in the FR range of cartridges? The VPI TNT is NOT a better turntable than the VPI Scout or VPI Classic despite it costing more and being a 'higher model' in the VPI range? A Rega P5 or P9 is NOT a better turntable than a P3 despite it being a 'higher model' in the Rega range? A Signet TK-10ML is NOT a better cartridge than the TK-7SU or TK-5Ea despite it being a 'higher model' in the Signet range? So please desist with these blanket generalisations which frankly are irrelevant to any useful discussions on the value of audio components as heard in our "amateur audiophile" systems. And if I ever read again about your "special training" in the art of audio listening, I'm likely to be physically ill all over my cut-price iPad? Your "special training" was at the Raul College of Self-Taught Boars whereas MY special training (and I have the certificates to prove it), was at the famed Toongabbie College of Advanced Audio-Sensory Appreciation. So stick that up your hollow tapered boron cantilever tube and play it! :-) |
In Europe it is not done to 'show off' about your self.Dear Nandric, In most English speaking countries it also is not done. I have learned more about audio from Raul, than from any other individual on earth and I value his contributions on A'Gon immensely. But please Raul.......if you can just eliminate two unnecessary and annoying characteristics from your writings, I think you will find there is more respect and attention given to your messages? 1. Stop claiming that you have special training in audio listening which no-one else has? If it is true, then that should be its own reward but every time you repeat this nonsense, it makes you appear unintelligent and that is far from the truth. 2. Stop judging the sound and quality of others' systems based solely on their equipment. The worst systems I have heard generally have comprised the best and most expensive of components whilst the best systems I have heard, have been surprisingly modest but thoughtfully put together. If you can just adopt these two suggestions, I think you will find that the antagonism that you sometimes generate will evaporate and your influence will grow commensurate to your knowledge and pioneering thought? With best wishes Henry |
Dear Raul, If you read the A'gon ads for cartridges for sale lately, you will see that almost all the used MM ones of repute, are sold very quickly at rather high prices. I suspect that this thread of yours, combined with the actual experiences of new listeners, is starting a quiet counter-revolution which, if my suspicions are correct, may have a beneficial effect in the development and sales of a greater range of modern MM cartridges? :^) |
Hi David, You asked recently about headphones and headamps and I've just found the phones and amp which, for the first time in my experience, actually sounds almost as good as my speakers. The phones are the Audeze LCD-2 which are othodynamic 'open-back' designs and the head-amp is the Schitt Lyr which is a hybrid valve design putting out a full 5 watts! I have never warmed to the sound of headphones with their 'in-head' projection and their lack of air, transparency and soundstage depth however.......whilst the LCD-2 cannot compete with those very aspects produced so palpably by my speakers, their balance, detail and tonality are so close to that of my full-range speakers that it seems to validate both transducers? I'm not sure that its ability to dissect the differences in cartridges and styli is up to that of my speakers (in fact I'm sure it's not)......but it's the closest any headphones have ever come in my experience? Cheers Henry |
Dear Professor, A wonderful and thoughtful posting which manages to inform without too much technical jargon. Not many here, are able to do such in-depth comparisons which need, not only the cartridges and the varied appropriate styli?......but presumably also, arms with readily interchangeable headshells to avoid 'memory loss' if manually changing cartridges from arm to arm? Dear Nandric, unfortunately I agree with Timeltel about the 'need' for more than only one MM cartridge but I also understand you are 'locked into' fixed-headshell modern arms? Wouldn't it be nice to have at least one vintage arm with interchangeable headshells to allow the required 'freedom'? A Micro MA-505s will not break the bank and would soon reward you bountifully :^) IMHO of course. Cheers Henry |
Dear Nandric, As this thread mentions both MMs and MCs in its title, I believe it is permissible to listen to, and talk about both :^) Besides which, since obtaining and setting up a second turntable and providing four separate arms with readily interchangeable headshells, I have discovered that the differences between the very top "Cardinal" cartridges, whether MM or LOMC, are quite ephemeral and not easy to differentiate without intense listening sessions with the ability to switch readily back and forth? The surprising factor to me, was that a cartridge's abilities or characteristics, was discernible more readily in one direction than the other? I can happily switch from a 'better' cartridge to 'lesser' one without hearing any noticeable 'loss' in quality yet, after acclimatizing........switching back......the 'improvement' was easily evident. I have been terribly confused at this apparent anomaly, and have been carefully testing this phenomenon over the last few months. I find I can sit happily listening to a quality LOMC cartridge (Universe, XV-1s, FR-7f) and thinking......."it can't get much better than this?"......only to find, after a long listening session, a quick switch to a top MM cartridge, makes me sigh and involuntarily utter the onomatopoeic ......."Ahhhhh' |
T_bone, The very best arm I have found for very high-compliance cartridges is the Continuum Copperhead. This is out of the 10 or so vintage and modern arms I have mounted in my system. The Copperhead recommendation is academic though as it was re-wired with DaVinci Grandezza wiring due to RFI problems with the original unshielded Copperhead phono wiring. The second best arm I have found for high-compliance MM cartridges, strangely enough, is the high-mass Fidelity Research FR-66S. Go figure? In_shore, I'm currently listening to the Empire 4000DIII in the Copperhead and it is quite luminescent although I agree with you that the MA-505S with a Yammy headshell punches above its weight. Griffithds, do you have another arm for the MMs or are you only using the Graham 2.2 as I found the Phantom 2 to be a rather poor match with high-compliance MM cartridges? |
Lewm, Your description of the Clearaudio cartridges surprises me."Thin and steely" is certainly not a characteristic I would use after having the Clearaudio Insider Gold and Concerto in my system over several years. Lush and coloured would be more like the sound I heard from them ...especially the Insider. This is not to say that this describes the sound of the good MM cartridges but rather that the Clearaudios, unlike most of the other LOMCs I had heard, were more akin to that quality of 'presence'. |
Thanks Roy, Your summary of the forces and relationships makes perfect sense (at least to me). And from that, I can see that formulae may be derived to calculate and prove all that you say.....after all, it's not rocket science?.......or with the calculations of forces on moving masses and their reactions.....perhaps it IS rocket science :-) |
Er Danny, If you DO find any OEM LCa styli......I may become a better friend than Timeltel?.......after all he already has one :^) I have a TK-7e which accepts either a No.2 or No.3 Signet stylus (the No.3 converting it to a 7SU apparently..... although why would Signet produce a separate body with TK-7SU printed on it as well?....perhaps the Professor could enlighten? I was also lucky enough to find a TK-7LCa body (without original stylus) which, with the 155LC stylus is as close to the original LCa (according to Timeltel) as one can come. This is currently the King in my collection :^) Looking forward to your impressions? |