You will not get the best bang for your buck with either the Velodyne or the Difinitive subs. Especially the Velodynes are over-priced and you pay for the name. I have owned many subs over the years including some very expensive high-end subs like Entec and Muse. I did extensive research before purchasing a HSU VTF-3 MK2 for my surround system. This is an amazing sub suited to even high-end systems. Take a close look at their website and read all the reviews and I think you'll be impressed. Check them out at http://www.hsuresearch.com/
By the way, Velodyne's customer service leaves much to be desired. Hope this helps.
By the way, Velodyne's customer service leaves much to be desired. Hope this helps.