What's wrong with Velodyne?

Bundy, never forget that everyone you talk to has both an opinion and an agenda. This is doubly true of everyone in the CE industry, whether they're a vendor or a dealer.

Itball's point is right on, Velodyne has really branched out their sales channels. To be fair, Velodyne is selective of which outlets sell or have access to which lines, but some boutique dealers don't want to carry the premiere upscale line of a brand that has entry level dreck in mass market stores also.

Nothing. You can't pry the DD-18 out of my system - I won't let you.

As stated above, every seller has an agenda. Credit Velodyne with not only great products but with a Business Model that makes their subwoofers available to buyers at all ends of the spectrum. No matter what you have to spend, you can find one of their quality subwoofers in your price range.

Nothing. I have a pair of HGS-15s with an SMS-1 on each one, crossed over @ 40hz with MMG's running full range. When my musical friends come to do a little music listening don't want to leave.

Beware of the dealer who puts down a product he/she does not sell.

Just MHO.

I still think the DD15 I used to have was the best all around sub I have ever owned. Better than the JL Audio 113 I had, and better, albiet much more expensive, all around than my current SVS PC Ultra. I have it set up a bit differently and love the SVS's sound with my Maggies and that's the only reason that I don't switch back to the DD15. I think every Velodyne product I have ever used was excellent.

What subs do they have in house at Magnepan???????

They make a great product, but...

1) "High End" dealers may take issue with the broad sales channel as noted above.

2) The high-tech approach Velodyne uses may conflict with the "simpler is better" purist approach common in some parts of the audiophile community (e.g. the 300b SET crowd).

3) For reasons unknown, Velodyne's paperwork (instruction books, promo lit, etc.) all presumes home theater use. I'm sure it's their biggest market, but this presumption may convince some that the products aren't "high end" enough.

All this is a shame as they (specifically the DD series and SMS-1) are terrific products which are among the very few that will allow a 2 channel system to produce wonderful sounding music in typical, hostile listening environments.