Used Preamp on a budget advice please.


I’m currently running a top of the line Yamaha AVR as my preamp in a system consisting of a Threshold S500/II, B&W 802 S2 and B&W 801 S2 speakers, which I swap from time to time. I’m also just using a Yamaha DVD player as a CD player, but am planning to buy an older, higher end CD player as well. I also use a PC with iTunes running to an Audioengine D1 DAC. I also have a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon turntable and would need to a phono amp for the products listed below.

I’m going to add an older preamp (with remote) for 2 channel to try to extract more definition, depth, etc, and to try to warm up the sound (the plan is to add a passive, high quality RCA switch to choose between preamp and AVR). I have a limited budget of up $700 and have been doing lots of looking. It appears that for my budget and need for a remote control, older pre/pro’s may be the best approach. I’m curious if anyone has any advice, opinion, or ideas on my approach and the following preamp possibilities:

Classe SSP-300
Classe SSP-75
Classe SSP-30 MK II
Cary Cinema 6
Simaudio Moon Stargate
Parasound C2
Krell Showcase PR
Krell KAV-250P

Thanks!
dastro
@dastro

I used to own a Hafler amp, then an Adcom 555 and then an Aragon 2004 mkii (which I thought sounded better than the 4004 in a/b comparison, btw). Also spent a lot of time time in Progressive Audio. They got a lot of my money.

Don’t know if you were around when big Henry (beard) was there. He was trying to sell me a CJ preamp ($1000), and suggested that I bring in a lower priced ($699 if I remember right) Bryston ss preamp to a/b with their CJ. I did so... and the Bryston schiit all over the CJ, even in different matching configurations. You should’ve seen Henry’s jaw hit the floor. High-larious. They must have hated me there.

In that vein, back in 1995 while I was stationed at Ft Rucker, I got the bright idea to audition three preamps in my home. I was running the Aragon 2004 MKII with a set of PSB Stratus Golds. Anyway, one was a $5500 Krell, another was a $4500 Audio Research, and the last was a Melos Audio MA-333a. The latter was used at $2000, previously owned by none other than Barry Gordy of Motown. The MA-333a smoked the others in that setup. I mean smoked. The AR sounded veiled in comparison, while the Krell sounded speedy and contrived.

Later on, I took it to a buddy’s house in Atlanta, who also happened to work for HiFi Buys when they were the bee’s knees. He had another audiophile friend there that was quite proud of his Counterpoint (SA-7 if I remember right), and his jaw was likewise as Henry’s when he heard the Melos. But from what I remember, the Counterpoint was closer in the running than the AR or the Krell. He was running Martin Logans, btw.

So much is predicated on matching. Best advice I’ve gotten... try before you buy.
We have a Parasound P- 5 preamp .it was opened brand new and ..Parasound used it at CES Show for 4 days  then factory packed it and sold it to us as exibition stock ..comes I with full warranty ..color is black and it looks brand new .. Cost is $695.00 plus shipping..it is an amazing pre-amp with Dac , bass management , full function remote -and phono section 
http://www.questforsound.com/preamps/preamps_parasound_halo_P5.htm

Good Listening
stephen
www.questforsound.com 
SSP-30 has given my ML Spires the airy, 3 dimensional sound I have been missing for many years. 
(Was using them with Marantz AV-7005 before)
Can't say enough good about Classe.
Those older AV receivers are finally put top-quality pre-amps in reach.
good luck

Hi, for your budget and prefered signature sound you might consider the Audio-gd Master 1. This is a wonderful preamp with great imaging, details, punchy and refined sound. Way superior to Musical Fidelity  a5 pre and Teddy Pardo PR1. Also the synergy with my Forte 1a (Threshold) is really nice, and maybe better (surely different) than with the Audio-gd Master 3 power amp. Just my 50 cents. 
As you, I had a Yamaha, and after a lot of research with a similar budget of yours, I got an anthem avm 20 and is great, make some research on them maybe you can reach a avm 30 or even a 40