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upgrade from Mini Dancer 2 DMD $5-10k

Hello all,
Looking to upgrade from a pair of Usher mini dancer 2 DMD.
Like many audio/musicophiles, I have owned multiple speakers in the past, through a series of upgrade/downgrade… all to various degrees of satisfaction…
In the speaker department, I had tremendous fun with various studio monitor speakers from french Brand Divatech (quite fantastic at the time), then on to notable speakers such as Kef 203/2, Wilson Audio Watt-Puppy 8s and most recently a pair of Usher Mini Dancer 2 (dmd).
The resolution on the Mini Dancers is incredible. Imaging is great. High-volume is possible (and manageable). But the low end has never been satisfactory to me. The absence of it I mean. I tried multiple amps and currently power them with a Usher 1.5.
Bass is just not there. I have experimented with the mini dancer in multiple rooms and set up. I also fiddled with a beringher DEQ24/96 to help out… and it did… but the laws of physics are here, and while at very high volumes you can get decent bass, at lower volumes I have heard multiple bookshelf speakers that provide more bass than the MD2.
I ended up adding a velodyne DD10+ to help in the bass department. But adding a sub introduces an additional level of complication and isn’t very satisfactory to me (musically).
So here I go: I am looking for a true full range $5-10K speaker (new or used). Fairly detailed and neutral to warm… Musical I guess… (With the absence of bass, the mini dancer tend to sound dry and forward)…. The KEF 203/2 was very good, but hard to come by. And I wouldn’t mind a bit more bass.
My living room is fairly large. About 30x15 and 8 feet high… that’s part of the problem. The speakers will need to fill that space. Here in Seattle, I went and audition Naim, PSB and Totem speakers (S600, Forest and I can’t remember the PSB). I didn’t enjoy the Naim at all… the Totem were pretty good (a bit of warmth)… the PSB were nice and clean but not very inspiring… Ideally I would buy a pair of Wilson Audio Sashas, but I cannot afford them (and the Sophias II I heard in the past also lacked bass, probably due to wrong amp pairing) …
I am not a big fan of the B&W sound… larger usher speakers are too big… therefore now reading about Aerial 7t (or model 9), verity audio or wild cards such as ATC SCM50 (also hard to find/afford)… most of them are hard to find in Seattle for a listen….
Music? Well, I will listen to Miles, Coltrane, Bach, Roy Hargrove, Common, Metallica, Ray Lamontagne, Daft punk, chamber music, Piano, occasional intimate French movies or Hollywood blockbusters… you get the picture… everything!
Please let me know your thoughts!
Thanks.
pierrel
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mboldda1
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how about moving up the usher dancer line?
pierrel OP
7 posts
 
Let's try this and see if it works.... The set up is still a bit messy, but getting there... You can see it is a large urban living room. Lots of windows and doors leading to other spaces.... Sound will reflect (probably contributing to some brightness with the MD), and you can see that it'll also go to other rooms...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/57199783@N06/sets/72157640988482735/
pierrel OP
7 posts
 
One more time:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjSvViN8
thuhaile
105 posts
 
With that room, I would look for either bigger Usher or Dynaudio c4 or s5.4
pierrel OP
7 posts
 
I thought I would post a quick update. First, thank you all for your support through this quest for better.
I have spent the last few days experimenting with the Beringher deq2496.
I have been able to dial in a nice 'house curve' and i must share the following... I think i might need to start a new thread, this said, the below has been shared and discussed here over an over again, so i am not sure I should add to the debate...but here I go:
I got some amazing results with the mini dancer. I actually just turned off the velodyne sub. The house curve is achived and the sound is full. Fuller than I had ever experienced. I am flying through my records with great pleasure. I have always known room response is probably one of the most important element in audio reproduction, if not the most important. And like said earlier, I do not mean to start another debate. But I must say that with the appropriate eq, the mini dancer sound very close to what i am looking for...And... Capable of bass i thought were not possible... Back to an earlier comment here, it sounds like their might be a voicing issue that eq is helping resolve. And that leads me to the next issue and question:
The eq only takes place in the digital domain. I can't find a way to have that applied to analog sources (my rega planar turntable), nor do I want to.
Do you think another power amp could help? I use the usher 1.5, and my preamp is a cary slp308.... If I was willing to try other amps to drive the lower end of the usher better, where should i look? Any suggestions? Is it more power? Bi amp?
Talk soon!
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