Tube, hybrid or solid state for Merlin TSM-MMs?


Dear Audiogoners and/or Merlin TSM owners,

After listening to my HT for years and I finally decided to build a second stereo only system. I consider myself still a novice and would much appreciate any recommendations for my project with limited budget (<$2000 excluding speakers). I am planning on getting used equipments on Audiogon.

I started by acquiring a pair or merlin TSM-MMs. I love them even with my Aragon 3 channel amp. I am considering getting a integrated amp to drive the TSMs and a CD player. I started shopping and I am overwhelmed by the vast number of products, they all seem to have rave reviews. Based on the budget of $2000 for both amp and CD player, My questions are as follow:

AMP (<$1000 - $1400 used):
1) should I go integrated or separates? Tube, hybrid or solid state?

2) Will tubes with less than 30 watts output be sufficient to drive the TSMs?

3) I kind of narrow down to a few models: (I realized the choice of going separates is very limited based on my budget, hence I've browsing at the integrated amps.)

Tubes/hybrids - Shanling STP-80; Jolida 502B: Onix SP3; Pathos Classic One MKII; Unison Research Unico.

Solid State - Krell 300i; Musical Fidelity X150; Arcam A32, A90; Classe CAP-101, CAP-151.

3) Some of the Chinese made Amps look pretty good (such as Shanling, Consonance and Dared), but are they any good?

4) Are there tube integrated amps on the market that come with pre-outs? In case I want to get a separate amp when I have more budget.

CD Player (<$1000 used):
1) Any recommendations is welcome. I kind of like the Rega Apollo and Jupiter. Anyone has experience with them?

2) Should I go with a transport and an outboard DAC (such as the Audio Alchemy combo)?

By all means, I am not limiting myself to the above choices, any other recommendations are welcome and much appreciated. Perhaps there are already existing threads on the subject, if so, would someone please point them to me?

Thanks.
kilsho
Just send Bobby and email even if he dosen't respond here. He is a great guy who will gove you all the personal help you need. You can contact him through the contact email on the Merlin web site.

---Dave
I'll let others with more experience with Merlin speakers and amp combos help you, but I just want to say that if you decide on getting an integrated, I would really think twice about adding an amp and using the integrated as your preamp. In my experience, the preamp section of an integrated is usually the weakest part. It's also why it's easier to find a good sounding budget amp than a good sounding budget preamp IMO. If you only have a source, you can consider getting a passive volume control and use the rest of your budget on a better sounding amp.
The easy solution would be to simply call Bobby at the factory. He can answer ALL of your questions and provide plenty of insights based on your music and listening preferences. If you've never spoken to him, he's extremely friendly and helpful and always willing to chat.

Jason
I had the oportunuty to demo the Pathos classic one MK2, and personally didn't like what it did with my TSM-MX. Thin, and bright, is how I would describe the sound at times. I was kind of disapointed because I had heard the Pathos on a pair of De Capos speakers, and they made great music together.

The Stingray in my opinion is a great choice, I had them for a while on the Merlins and it was very nice, involving, warm, and enough juice for the TSM. The Stingrays are being shipped now, with a triode/tetrode switch, which I think is a nice addition.

Good luck

David
Thank you all for your helpful inputs. I will definitely talk to Bobby.

After reading your inputs, I am leaning toward tubes now. I am thinking about getting an amp(not hybrid) with a volumn pot and hook up the CDP directly to the amp since I only listen to CDs. Any thoughts on that?

Sbank, I agree with you regarding the Krell amp after I heard a Krell(can't remember the model) coupled with a pair of B&W 803s at my friend's. Not sure if it's the B&Ws or the Krell or both. The highs are kind of cold and somewhat piercing to my ears. But my friend loves it, I guess it's a matter of taste. Thanks for showing me your setup.

Swampwalker, I realized it is a relatively big room but surprisingly, the TSMs were filled the room without any problem, except that the vocal seems to be a bit thin and scattered if you know what I mean. But the soundstage is huge no matter where I am in the room. I will definitely do some more research on the Jadis.

Toudou, thanks for the feedback on the pathos, I will scratch that from my list and I will research on the stingray.

Thanks.