Tidal electronics...


Hi Goners!

Would like to hear from owners of Tidal ELECTRONICS...I am interested if you feel they are made to the same level of quality that they're speakers have come to enjoy.

Thanks to all for any light you can shed!
128x128azjake
Any balanced preamp can match Tidal's performance?
As I know Tidal is single ended design.
Murataltuev,

very easy. The Presencio....

But I imagine that you could ask Tidal to add balanced inputs to your preamplifier....
I'm very happy with my Tidal Preos.
It adds life to the music!
The only problem is that I don't have balanced input!
I'm using some XLR->RCA converters with some DACs and this is not good.
So, now I want to have preamp with balanced input but can't imagine what can be at least with the same quality?
Can someone suggest?
Tbg,

absolutely not. Sovereign amps are in a different league altogether. But I would buy the Aaron Cineast No.22 anytime instead of the Krell Evolution preamps or the cheaper offerings by Burmester or Octave.

When I replaced my Aaron preamplifier with the Sovereign Director was like I was driving a Porsche instead of a Toyota...
Geopolitis, I suspect you don't think the Aaron amps rival the Sovereigns?
I have tested tidal speakers in the past and they are the best ones produced in germany..it sounds great when playing my lp's...detailed and loud enough for my tastes.
Tbg,
I own the Aaron Cineast No.22 preamplifier and I am using it in my multichannel system. I also have tried the Aaron XX integrated amplifier. Like Sovereign you have to pay two or three times more money to get the same performance from any competing products
Geopolitis, have you heard the Aaron electronics?

Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Emigene

I believe you must contact them directly to arrange for an audition.

Aaron and Sovereign brands are the same people so that you know...
Tbg,

no I haven't heard the Ypsilon gear but other people that I know and trust their opinion are not that impressed. For example an ex-Wavac distributor told me that the Wavac PR-X2 was clearly better preamplifier than the Ypsilon pre when they compared them a couple of years ago.

If you consider the fact that both Tidal Preos and Sovereign Director are miles ahead of the Wavac PR-T1 (I heard the differences between the Preos and the big Wavac with my own ears) then you understand that Ypsilon are not up there with the Tidal amps.
Thanks for the clarification, Geopolitis. Have you heard the Ypsilon preamp or amps? They are the only electronics I have heard on the Contrivas Disceras SEs.
Tbg, having heard both Tidal Preos and Presencio I agree with Karel that they are simply the number one and number two preamps in the world. The only preamp I would rate close to Preos is the Sovereign Director. Nothing else..

And let' not forget that you get the best phonostages in the world in the package!
Karelfd, while I greatly appreciate you ardent comments, you cannot imagine what torment they cause me. Were I 30 years younger I would have to find a way to get the Presencio, but at this age, I just cannot afford one. But I think I must seek a Preos.

Thanks again.
My pleasure Tbg!

Yes I am located in Frankfurt, Germany (btw, I noticed Audiogon have updated the country information for most 'Goners lately, just click on the moniker). So, please bear that in mind when I comment on price/quality relation. It's the "way of the world" I guess, but I notice some distributors take healthy margins and that works in both directions across the big pond.

In spite of such caution, I will commence by saying that to me the acquisition of the Preos was a no-brainer. I still bought the former unbalanced-only generation back in 2007 (potential buyers, no worry these went off the market around that time). Costly in absolute terms, I consider this some of the best value I ever went for. Why? Because I have both an analog and a digital rig and this machine was easily one of the references in BOTH disciplines! To me, the synergy with the Contriva was of course another argument, but also combined with other gear the Preos holds its status. Until the advent of the Presencio the Preos was simply the best I had had the opportunity to hear. I should add that the phono stage of the Tidal preamps is not in any way comparable with the add-ons, optional or not, that some of the well-known brands offer. People at Tidal are very "analog-minded" and the preamp was primarily developed with that goal. In another thread I have therefore not hesitated to call this the best MC phono-amp with volume control. Then again, in accordance with the reigning philosophy, when it came to building the line stage that had to be superior as well, of course, and so, here comes Preos. I can tick the boxes that leap to one's mind when trying to describe the sound: true to life tone and timbre of voices and instruments throughout all frequencies, micro detail but never detached from the overall flow (yeah I know, my own personal buzz-word), immediate dynamic response no matter how brutally huge the dynamics may be, fastness, clarity, ... or just make one observation: Together with a superior amp Preos will show you entirely how good a recording is, whether the artist's passion and vibrancy were catched, and what your source and speakers are able to reproduce.

Enter Presencio. This is stellar. Period. Sadly, it is also stellarly priced. Then again, I found out it is - take a deep breath - reasonably priced. Lothar, Tidal's "amp-guy", told me he had been experimenting and came up with something that even in its raw form left everyone with the desire to explore the outer limit of The Possible. However the financial outlay for building this machine proved to become so huge, they had to find people willing to commit more or less in advance they'd go for it (a soon-to-be Tidalist yourself, it will not surprise you they succeeded in doing that, luckily).

I had the pleasure of witnessing the completion of the first machine in Lothar's "laboratory" and heard it the first time in his system next to the Preos. Fellow Mere Mortals, the Preos remains one of the greatest preamps out there. Presencio is otherworldly, or no, that is a wrong label, Presencio is actually the one that brings you nearest to the real world of real music.
Karelfd, I was afraid someone would say that. How about the Preos? You must be in Europe to hear these components. Thanks for telling us your experiences.
Azjake, rest assured, Tidal's electronics are no alibi products: same build quality, same musical prowess, same window on reality. Only, as Geopolitis points out, whereas the speakers are in a more exclusive niche, there is more competition as far as amps are concerned and I am aware of other amps driving Tidal speakers with superb results!

Unless ... we are talking about the the Presencio preamp. Tbg, yes imho that is in a league of its own
(in any case the best I ever heard by a considerable margin)
In my opinion their amplifiers are probably the best in the world. Their power amplifiers are still in the top 5 but at least you can find some competition here