tomthiel
Thank you for the cabling/ XO update. Very cool to have consultation with Mr. Ray Kimber. His cables are a Sonic match for Thiel Audio speakers. If you need a second opinion, reach out to Taylor at Gold Print Audio. He used to represent Thiel Audio. Currently represents Kimber Kable for a long time.
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tomthiel
Nice catch ! On the Sony S9000Es player. Those remotes are plentiful on eBay.
Now, to address your query. All of my spinners, minus the AYRE, have those Digital “filters”. While it is a marketing ploy, to a degree, these are fine-tuning tone controls for CD or SACD playback. Test drive each filter or setting to your ear brain. Purely customized to the user’s taste. Both S9000es and SCD-1 are very well annotated and documented in Audio forums. You will have zero trouble finding out pertinent information on both machines.
Those filters are very subtle. You will find the one that best suits your personal Playback taste. Try to have a quiet environment for best outcome. Keep me posted as you finagle this fun process. Let me know if you have any questions.
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vm1
Outstanding! Thank you for the update.
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lars888888
There is not much difference between the 3b and 4b-st other than power ratings. Both amps have the Bryston house sound. Both amps can be matched nicely with Tube or SS pre-amps.
Which hybrid design amp are you considering? What other Gear is in your System?
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tomthiel
Outstanding! A White Paper will certainly provide much insight for your discretion.
Sony is/was big on “Bass Management “ those 5 selectable Filters will tie into their philosophy. To start, Google Sony SCD-1 forums and reviews. This player is 20 years old, so, have your readers on. I will do some detective work on my end as well. Give me a few days.
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tomthiel
Google : Sony SCD-1 player reviews. The first entry will be an outstanding Stereophile review by Jonathan Scull 1999. I have this magazine in my collection and remember reading it circa 1999. Mr. Scull does an excellent job interpreting and reviewing this State Of The Art spinner. Specifically, those 5 filters are examined at length. This will be a starting point.
more to follow,
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tomthiel
Excellent! Good to read that you have a contact at Sony. Perhaps your contact has a RM - Remote Control for S9000es.
please ask about RM - Remote Control SX700.
This matches SCD 9000es Player.
Ultimately, you ears will find favor among those Filters. The Stereophile article even mentions 1 filter specifically for Classical Music. Very impressive.
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tomthiel
Right On! I am not a fan of aftermarket Remote Control. Give me OEM.
Please ask Bill if he has an extra RM SX700 (remote control). I will be more than happy to pay for it.
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tomthiel
PM sent. Happy Listening!
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tomthiel
Thank You for the kind words. I have a feeling that 2024 will bring much joy for fans and owners of Thiel Loudspeakers here and on other Audio forums.
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thieliste
what is the cost of Mundorf binding posts?
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thieliste
A beautiful room and system in your New home.
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drack1
Welcome! Good to see you here. Yes, a Pass Labs X250.8 will be enough current for a pair of CS 3.7 speakers. This particular model requires a large room to "bloom". Listening position is fine at 8.5 feet.
The Panel has several 3.6 fans/owners, stay tuned until those guys chime in to address your query. I look forward in reading more about Musical tastes and system.
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dr3
Welcome! Good to see you today. The original Outriggers are a Sonic match for the CS 3.7 speakers. If you feel the need to further isolate, use Outriggers.
I have spent much time with this Model and it sounds fine with/without coupling.
I look forward in reading more about your Musical taste and system.
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dickieboy
Welcome! Good to see you here. Thank you for chiming in to address loudspeaker 3.5- this is the Top favorite among fans and owners on The Panel. What other gear is in your System?
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thieliste
Thank You for the Jadis vs. Vitus Audio comparison. Good to your experience.
The Gryphon is well-liked among The Panel as well.
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dr3
Nice score! on those CS 3.7 loudspeakers. Hold on to Outriggers. They are quite valuable.
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vair68robert
Nice catch! I hope those CS 1.6 speakers find a good home.
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thebarr
Welcome! Good to see you here. Nice system you have built around CS 3.6 speakers. Reading through this thread, you will find many 3.6 fans and owners on the Panel. I look forward in reading more about Musical tastes.
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vair68robert
I am looking into acquiring a Tubed cd pIayer . have to figure out the compatibility with my AYRE AX-5 integrated amp.
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ronkent
Welcome! Back- good to see you here again. Thank You for chiming in about IsoAcoustics GAIA footers and application for CS 3.7 loudspeakers. You are an expert on Thiel Audio.
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jazzman7
Nice catch! I hope those speakers find the next good Home as well.
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dr3
Which Tubed cd player(s) did you own? In reference to CS 3.7 and Outriggers, I found no substantial advantages/disadvantages while auditioning. The same ear-brain impressions for CS 2.4 and CS2.7 Models. It is still a very cool invention and worth keeping.
Only with the CS 2.4SE did I find the Outriggers to sound beneficial. The matter has been discussed here in the past about this Loudspeaker needing the Coupling effect. Only a subtle Aural experience was appreciated for the better.
All of my auditions were conducted in Rooms with carpet. Perhaps my impressions and thoughts would be different with Hard-wood surfaces?
I hope that this is helpful.
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dr3
Sonic Frontiers, is still highly regarded in our hobby. The brand has a strong fan-base. The Classics, never go out of vogue.
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thieliste
Thank you for offering your impressions and thoughts on Gryphon. We have a few fans and owners on the Panel. I will second , Vitus Audio. I would like to hear their Integrated and matching CD/SACD player. This is a premier Audio product.
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ronkent
Great to see you today. Thank you for offering your extensive Thiel Audio knowledge. There are not many Panel members here who have owned all of those Speakers.
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solobone22
Good to see you here again. Nice to have another fan and owner of the CS 2.7 speakers. What gear is in your current System?
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solobone22
Nice system. Good to see that Denon DCD-1650AR player. A very fine spinner.
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ronkent
Thank you for your expertise on REL/Thiel speakers. These are the finest "subs" on the market.
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tomthiel
PM sent. Happy Holidays
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cascadesphil
Thank you for the REL confirmation as well.
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trogdor425
Welcome! Good to see you here today. Nice score on CS 1.5 speakers. Equally nice to read that Velodyne is a sonic match. I have heard their "DD" series suwoofer(s) in other systems that did not feature Thiel loudspeakers. I look forward in reading more about your Musical tastes and system(s).
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halifax
I see that you own a sweet pair of CS 2.4 plus Outriggers Speakers!
Best practice, stick with a Copper cable. No Silver. Audioquest (AQ), Cardas, Kimber Kable, Purist Audio Designs, Transparent and Wireworld, are all sonic matches. The key is to dial-in said Cables to your Power Amp.
Which brand are you enjoying?
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Which brand of Power Amp: corrected.
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halifax
My pleasure. Keep me posted as you test-drive Cabling.
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audiojan
Good to see you here again. Thank You for another REL confirmation.
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ronkent
I have spent time with the Focal Sopra 2. It does compete (not better than) Thiel Audio CS 2.4, CS 2.4 SE, CS2.7, CS 3.7 and Wilson Audio Sabrina/Sabrina X.
Perhaps the Sopra 3 takes on CS 3.7 and Wilson Audio models above the Sabrina/SabrinaX up to DAW?
Very similar to a Thiel Audio loudspeaker, in that, careful Gear matching is key to avoid excessive brightness from the Tweeter.
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ydjames
Good to see you here today. Greetings. Now, to address your query. There is the original Thiel Audio Outriggers (spiked base) to consider. Sound Anchor might be an option? Stay tuned until a member of the Panel's CS 2.7 owners chimes in as well.
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ronkent
Good to see you as always. Thank You for the PS Audio DSD DAC II. update.
There are several PS Audio threads here on the 'Gon that could benefit from your expertise.
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tomthiel
Season's Greetings! Thank You for a brief update. Cabling (wire) is the forgotten component. I have been saying this for years with great Passion. I am looking forward in reading more about your findings via experimentation.
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ydjames
No- Only the Outriggers. My pair has Spikes that can be affixed to the metal base.
I have seen Sound Anchors with spikes as well. Not sure about Herbie's Audio Lab?
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thieliste
Nice catch! I hope those CS 2.7 speakers find the next good home.
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solobone22
Thank You for the CS2.7 and Outriggers confirmation. During my auditions, my ears could not discern a difference with/without Outriggers on the CS 2.7 and CS 3.7 Models. Still, it is pretty cool to own.
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solobone22
Right On! both accounts. Enjoy the Holiday season.
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