Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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tomthiel

Thank You for the CS 2.4 confirmation. I miss Wes (R.I.P.). His review is one for the ages.

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tomthiel

What kind of cost/price is involved with CC SA caps or SCA caps ?

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beetlemania

In both SE auditions, I detected, no glassy presentation within the Midrange register. Even though the pairs are quite apart S/N wise, I enjoyed the same presentation and sound quality. A measure sweeter than a stock 2.4 model.
I really must hear your upgraded pair sometime in the future.

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2nd Note;
with every DAC/Server piece of gear up to the $20K mark, my ears detect,  that "glassy" presentation and sound in the Midrange register(s).

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beetlemania

Excellent! Thank You for the update. Feel free to post the prices for CSA, Mills and other upgrades caps/resistors for the Panel.  I feel this would be helpful information to those considering changing out XO's.

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snbeall

Good to see you here again.  The new Chrissie Hynde release is on my short-list.  I like your loudspeaker comparisons. This is the only way to decide if a move away from Thiel Audio is warranted? Most will return to a Thiel.

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beetlemania

Thank You for the cost comparison. Those prices are not bad at all.
Very affordable if you ask me. Are you planning any additional upgrade(s) this year? After I establish my cables/cords, we will talk about my SE pair.

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ALL

feel free to talk about Prices on anything Audio related here. There are no restriction(s) regarding this important matter (wholesale, middle man, retail).

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snbeall

Good to read about your positive experience with TMR. This Audio company(re-seller) is really making a name for themselves.

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jmbumgarner01

Nice score! Both Cary Audio and Pass Labs are sonic matches for the CS 2.4 model.  What other gear rounds out your system?

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beetlemania

Agreed- once your system is dialed-in, no need for any further upgrade(s).

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jmbumgarner01

Thank you for citing the rest of your system. the Rega P8 is an excellent TT as is the Cary audio DMS 700. To date the DMS has been a great product for Cary. Did you own the 500 or 600 models?
Luckily, the CS 2.4 is not difficult to drive nor match (sonically).

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sdecker

Excellent! Good to see you own a low-numbered pair. The general consensus agrees on Clarity Cap CSA/ESA (s) as well. What gear is in your current system?

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Excellent discussion- All.
Reading across other Audio forums, Cardas Rhodium/Silver is the preferred binding post upgrade. This technique is applied to loudspeaker as well as Power amp posts. Silver tends to act as a superior conductor on several Audio fronts. Presentation and sound can portray brightness and or lean. At any rate Silver is very fast sounding. One audition with a Nordost cable or cord is all it takes.

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johnhh
Welcome! Good to see you here today. I believe that there is 1 other CS 1.5 owner on the Panel. Now, to address your query. Both Bryston and Classe' are sonic matches for Thiel Audio loudspeakers. You are already up and running.
Many options regarding servers and streaming. Stay tuned until someone chimes in about Flac files and hard-drives. I look forward in reading more about your Musical tastes.

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dsper
It is an honor and pleasure to Host this thread. I am simply a fan of the Music, like you guys. It never hurts to have Reference gear on-hand to enjoy it all!

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All
I added my latest acquisition. Marantz SA-11S2 Reference CD/SACD Player.  My 1st Marantz product.
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ctsooner
As always, good to see you here. I hope that you are well and ready for the Summer season.  A few days ago I had a demo on Swisscable .
I have been awaiting this audition since January. I enjoyed a small system featuring Audio Hungary Integrated amp, Innuous server/streamer(dealer/retailer uses these devices) and QLN Prestige 5 loudspeakers.
Overall, an excellent demo. the system was lively and musical top to bottom. In late Summer I will take a 2nd demo and bring one of my spinners for Critical evaluation. The cables/cords are Top Shelf to be sure. More to follow as I hone in on Reference cabling.
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sdecker
Feel free to talk about anything Audio related here. CD and SACD discussion is most-certainly allowed! Not all of Us are into music servers/streaming, myself included.  A strong percentage of the Panel are into Vinyl. No harm there either. It is all about the Music and Gear that transports to that magical place.
This is my 1st spinner to feature "filters" for playback.
I am open for Hot Tips.

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sdecker

I purchased the Marantz as a 2nd Reference SACD spinner. The previous owner tweaked Op amps and exchanged stock fuses for Hi Fi Tuning models.  Tell me more about your impressions? How long did you audition in your system?

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jon_5912

Nice catch! Those are low numbers for the CS 3.7 loudspeaker.
I hope they find the next good home.

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james633

Good to see you here today. Thank You for the follow up on your Mac/Thiel combo. What other gear is in your current system?

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yyzsantabarbara

Good to see you again. Excellent combination of CODA/Thiel.
The Gustard X26 Pro is receiving positive Audio press across other forums.

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james633

Thank You for the system update. Agreed, having separates can become too much of a good thing. 

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westcoastaudiophile

Welcome! Good to see you here. 
What gear is in your current system? I will read over the Gustard A22.

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james633

the Gustard X26 Pro has a following over on Audio Asylum.

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sdecker

Thank You for the SA-11S2 review.  Very helpful and informative. There are a few reviews on this spinner prior to my purchasing. I read all of them.

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tomthiel

Thank You for the SCD-1 update. I can certainly appreciate an 'Audio ICU'. Great sense of humor there.  Mr. Bill Thalmann has an excellent reputation in the Audio repair/restoration business. I can hardly await for his diagnosis. 

We all know that older does not mean obsolete. Historically, key pieces of Audio gear set and continues to set a Gold standard. The SA-11S2 is an opportunity to for me to evaluate Marantz's version of a Reference CD/SACD player. Add to the fact that Fuses and op-amps, can exchange for better presentation and sound, makes the spinner more attractive. 
This purchase is a gateway to the  SA-10 Reference CD/DAC/SACD player in current production. 

As always, I enjoy reading about Thiel Audio history. Specifically, the gear you guys utilized in the sound lab, as Jim was developing his signature loudspeaker sound.  Musical engagement indeed.

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sdecker

2nd Note:
A long-winded review is certainly welcome here anytime.  Your impression on CD playback from the SA-11S2 mimics my impression of the Esoteric DV-60. Each of the (3) CD filters did nothing for my ears.
On the flipside, SACD playback is excellent. I found it ( and still do) a strange interpretation of the music. I simply could not find the (CD) groove?  I wonder if CD playback improves on the upper-tier Esoteric models?  
There are enough Audio and owner reviews on the Marantz SA-10 Reference player across several forums. Overall impressions and thoughts are positive on CD/DAC/SACD playback. To date, I have not read a negative/poor review.  Not bad for a sub $10K digital machine.

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sdecker

not to mention  the several SA-10 filters for CD/DAC and SACD playback. Crazy options!
I found the Esoteric's CD playback "strange" in comparison to its inherent SACD playback. CD was bad. SACD was excellent.

Another strange twist, the previous 11S2 owner did step up to the dCS Puccini.  The SA-10 would be a very strong contender in this regard.

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prof

Thank You for citing the documentary. I will check it out as well.
I am thinking that there are not many Audiophile documentaries in circulation?

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fitter468

Good to see you again. Goertz cabling is a sonic match for Thiel speakers.  Thank You for the system update. We all had Monster Cable at some point in our Audio journey.

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tomic601

I hope that the CS 2.3 finds the next good home. A beautiful room and Vintage system.  Were you a Pilot ?

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tomic601

Excellent! building airplanes and/or cars is another fun Hobby.

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zkga

 

Nice catch! I hope those 2.2 speakers find the next good home.

 

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dancastagna

An incredible system in the making!

Those amp(s) are heavy hitters to be sure. You have a tough decision my Audiophile friend.  All Amp(s) are special in their own way. At this level of price-performance, take time to visit dealers/retailers to audition.

Of the considerations listed, I have only auditioned Mark Levinson and D'Agostino models.  Each were matched w/ corresponding pre-amps (same brand). Very musical and powerful. Endless current for driving a Thiel loudspeaker.

Over on Audio Asylum, John Ellison, drives his CS 3.7 with Parasound gear exclusively. Read up on his postings if interested.

I cannot comment on the Krell Trio 300. It certainly has the specs to drive a pair of CS 3.7 loudspeakers.  Keep me posted on your findings.

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tomthiel

Thank You for the history lesson on CS 1.6 vs. CS 1.7 models.

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ydjames

Welcome! Good to see our International Thiel owners. The CS 2.7 is a very fine loudspeaker. Reading these pages, you will find, many Benchmark fans and owners as well. T+A makes fine electronics, especially, DAC8 DSD.  I look forward in reading more about your musical tastes.  How is the weather in Singapore this time of year?

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tomthiel

Thank You for chiming in to address James' tweeter query.
As we kick off Summer, in a few days, I hope that you are well in your neck of the woods.

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ydjames

Thank You for the follow up. We have similar weather this time of year.
I have read about The Bassface Swing Trio. I will check out "Plays Gershwin".
Regarding the Tweeter distortion, if you are experiencing the same aural findings on piano recordings, it could be a loose voice coil. I agree with Tom's thoughts.  Consult Rob Gillum at Coherent Service (CSS) in Lexington Kentucky, U.S.A. for a possible re-build of tweeter.
Keep me posted on this situation.

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