Thiel 2.3 vs 2.4


I have 3.5's and love the deep bass.
I am tempted though to go with a newer and more modern speaker.
Im seeing some good deals on the 2.3's and Im wondering how much of a difference there is between the 2.3's and 2.4's
I have heard the 2.4's at Thiel and they are an incredible speaker!
I have become a devoted Thiel fan so please no other speaker recommendations.
My main concern is losing the deep bass of the 3.5's.
I understand the 2.3's only go down to 36hz or so.
Thanks in advance!
david99
You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

Just think the absolute opposite of your system and that's what we sold.

Back then My favorite 2 channel System was probably; but 2 channel is such a compromise

ML 32
Meridian 588
Warner Imaging ER300's
Dynaudio Temptations or Confidence 5's

My System at home

Was (7) Custom/Active 3 ways using the Seas Excel Fibreglass midbass and Aluminum 8" with Scan Speak 2509 tweeter.

Had a EAR864 with Meridian 565 and HW19MkIv with ET arm maxed on mods and a Pioneer LDS2/or CLD-D79 for a transport.

Warner Imaging amps and B&K amps & custom crossovers I built with some assistance from Warner Imaging.
David99,

I had an opportunity to test out both those speakers, head to head on my system and my room for over a week. I don't know why some people’s assessments have to be so one sided and extreme, but I guess that's the passion of the hobby.

I found the Thiel 2.4s rounded off the sharp highs (although accurate) that the 2.3's had a reputation of. The bass goes deeper and remains tighter than the 2.3 as well.

The 2.4s are also easier to drive than the 2.3. The impedance curve is much nicer on you amp.

My overall assessment I think could be described as, the 2.4 did everything as well as the 2.3, although on some material the 2.4s were better. The 2.3s never surpassed the 2.4's on any recording that I listened to. I ended up choosing the 2.4 over a nicely priced pair of 2.3's.

I did find that placement of the 2.4s was fussier than the 2.3s. It took me a while to dial in the 2.4s. The 2.3s didn't take as long.

Good luck. I'd be curious to hear about your experience.
Can't argue with a post that happened 4 years ago but Cinematic Systems was a bit off-base when he partnered a Meridian amp with Thiels and then called the Thiel's foul.

And this is/was a reputable dealer? For shame.

I am tired of the Thiel bashing when folks don't use the PROPER AMP!
4 and 1/2 years have gone buy since then, but this thread is still quite interesting (I wander if Cinematic and David are still on Audiogon forum).
I've owned a pair of Thiel 2.3 for two years, and used them in three very different rooms, always powered by NuForce Ref 8.
I'm not as technically expert as many people in Audiogon, and I don't know how to measure dips and distortion. All I can say is that I partially agree with Cinematic: the Thiel 2.3 tend to be fatiguing and make you want to improve all the chain to get the best out of them... but I'm still enjoying them for what they are: such an "emotional" speaker that you can live with its 'flaws' and yet be constantly surprised by the incredibly realistic 3D reconstruction and punchy dynamic, which convey a live feeling like a few other (often more expensive) speakers do.

That said, if today I decided to replace my Thiels, I would consider something totally different, maybe something "mellower" or more "euphonic" if you like. Just for a change, or because upgrading to another Thiel model would set my expectations too high, or maybe simply because I'm getting older and I would like some more relaxed listening sessions.

But in doing so, I'd be 100% conscious I'd be trading realism for something else just to please my ageing ears.