Amg56
Appreciate the sentiments.
However we all know full well the main protagonists here who just cannot let it go.
Yes the rest of us should be able to ignore those barbs and rise above the nonsense.
But you know how human nature goes.
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Amg56
Sorry to hear of your condition, consider this though as Frank says.
Modern medicine is much better equipped to deal with this.
My 87 year old mother has had 2 different cancers and at present both in full remission and she is still going on vacations!
Best of luck. |
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Nothing short of a full on tactical nuke is going to stop this steamroller.
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Loads more detail
Soundstage is awesome
Just getting better and better
System never sounded so good.
Did I miss anything? |
Frank
We took a visit to another fuse thread for a while.
Same old suspects with same old ballyhoo!
Its SO good to be back.......
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Now we just wait for " you know who" to show.
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Funny... I am actually sitting in an airport on my way to Milwaukee right now, I will let you know if I can smell his cologne when I land.
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Frank
Yea I am really unsure what some members truly hope to gain besides a bad rap for themselves!
I do believe the SR Blue I installed in my phono stage is opening up some more, I was belting out an album I know well this morning and it just seemed to have a little more top end detail and sparkle, sure I could be imagining it but not much to gain on that score as I already spent my money and will continue to do so however I see fit and please.
Not decided 100% on whether to take the plunge on TC or not yet, simply because still need to fully convince myself on that score yet.
And as far as your TC thread goes I thought I better steer well clear, I have blown a fuse nearly with run ins with certain members already, no need to get myself any further worked up...lol
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Thank you Ted!
Very nicely said.
However I am sure that will be difficult for some to handle.
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Very careful usage of vernacular and statistics can prove and disprove a lot of things just depending how you manipulate them.
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@cleeds
+1
Exactly!
ALL of this is everybodies personal perspective which puts both "sides" on the same footing in all honesty.
What I do not understand is why ANYBODY should feel that it is just THEIR side/viewpoint/opinion that is right and most important! |
I totally understand and respect those here who have tried an aftermarket fuse and garnered no discernible sq change. Kudos to those few.
However that was still in their room with their equipment and to their ears, which is still highly subjective.
So said testers simply CANNOT take the stance that because they did not hear an improvement then absolutely nobody else can or should!
That is utter nonsense and arrogance beyond belief.
The vast majority who have reported sq change have stated it is just what they are hearing and their opinion only not that it is a fact that an aftermarket fuse WILL result in an improvement.
So we need to quit with the blustering posts that proclaim it is a fact that it is impossible to hear an improvement! |
Prof
Good question that I do not have the perfect answer for right now.
If we take it as having to state in absolute terms then it may not be a statement that anybody has actually made.
If we take it as insinuations and hyperbole then the answer is yes.
Nice that you ignored the rest of the post though........
However I have no desire for this to drag out and spiral out of control so take care
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And yes certain critics are indeed making absolute statements that it is impossible for a fuse to make an sq improvement.
Over and over again in fact. |
Excuse me Prof but are you reading the same post that I am?
Only ONE paragraph fits your original critique, after all that ONE paragraph was all you chose to quote in your post.
Now suddenly you have inflated it to THREE paragraphs?
If you go back and read it CORRECTLY paragraph number 2 references testers making absolute statements, paragraph number 4 references ANYBODY making said statements.
You need to reread your post as you were specifically asking about ONE paragraph and one only, again after all it was only ONE paragraph you chose to quote correct?
So yes my statement stands.
Colour coding?
Not a bad idea but I have a better one
Maybe a pop up book?
But as I said this is only going to go one way
I bid thee farewell. |
Absolutely not how I read it...lol
The latter paragraph is most definitely a generalisation of ANYBODY making statements that it is impossible to hear a difference, not prior testers.
As opposed to proponents who do not insist that you HAVE to be able to hear a difference.
If you get my drift, but feel free to pick away at whichever small part you like.
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Some people here obviously have trouble with simple cognitive functions.
Its just a riot tonight.
Y,all take care now
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Mapman
I agree entirely and on both "sides".
Probably would be the kindest cut to put the thread to sleep to end its suffering.
It has degenerated to a point where nobody is ever going to truly listen to anybody else at all.
Just a rehash of the same barbs and retorts over and over.
And same multiple deleted posts.
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Wolf
Surely fuses run in the same area as caps and resistors and cables and plugs etc.
Whoever first thought of swapping those out as they also were obviously doing an adequate job?
Did they expect a sonic change when they did so?
It is in the nature of the human race to tinker and experiment without always having a rationale or expectation to base said tinkering on.
I just do not see how fuses fall into any different regards than any other change from a manufacturer standard issued product.
I do not expect everybody to hear a change, way to many system variables, room variables and finally human variables for it to be consistently repeatable.
But all you can use is results as a guide as to what you might expect from said tweak.
After all if say even 80% report a positive change then its a guide to indicate you may as well.
That is all anybody can ask from any review of any product really. |
wolf
Not sure if I upset you someway in an earlier life but I have noticed at least 3 or 4 times on this thread I have made what I consider to be a rational detailed response to some of your posts and yet you just blithely ignore them .
And that is fine if it is deemed personal for some reason or if you think my direct relies to you are not even worth considering.
Just curious you could say |
Wolf
Glad you are not totally ignoring me..lol
However you did miss the majority my point I believe
What I meant was why on earth did the first person decide to modify caps or power cords when they were doing the job they were designed to do obviously quite successfully?
That is what I meant, fuses are just another item in a long line of "what happens if?"
People are people and will meddle, does not matter in the slightest just what said item was designed "only" to do at all.
BTW you can debate the origin/meaning of my "handle" all you like, my skin is very thick......
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And the "Awesome Foursome" sincerely welcome the return of Captain Caveman! |
Mapman Rarely do I take umbrage at anything you state but on this I disagree. Obviously, to anyone who can read, this thread is about convincing others to buy the fuses. Anything that does not support that goal, is a threat and must be discredited.
I am sorry but the title of the thread and the positive posts from many have absolutely NOTHING to do with trying to persuade others to buy an aftermarket fuse whatsoever! In fact to read that into some of the posts shows you just cannot be reading them at all. Personally I could not care less if another living soul buys an aftermarket fuse or not! This thread IMHO was about one thing and one thing only. Reporting ones experience with said SR Blue fuses, nothing more at all. Nobody here is on the SR payroll, I believe what I hear whether others do or not and I tell it like I hear it, period. |
Let me be clear here
I do not know Frank or any of the other posters here who have reported positive experiences.
I also do not know any of the posters who have had negative experiences either.
All I have ever tried to do on this thread and any "tweak" thread is report things as I hear them.
Thats it for me
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Prof
My sincere apologies!
What with the dark tone this thread has taken I assumed the worst and yes it made an ass out of me for sure!
I thought your meaning by truncating my quote was something different entirely.
Certain "other" members have a very bad habit of committing that offence repeatedly.
Now I see you were merely being positive in the correct use of the phrase whereby not employing either a double negative or positive. and butchering it.
Reading too much into things can get one in deep doodoo! |
Wolf
I understand your arguments there for sure, however I wonder why some manufacturers have heard differences when going from a fuse to a circuit breaker and indeed from a circuit breaker to nothing in the ac path at all?
Not sure how that is explained away by the fuse just being a little piece of wire designed to melt?
Just postulating here, tbh I really have no idea why they work in my system for me, all I know is that they do.
And honestly, $150, in hifi terms it really is small change and when backed by a 30 day money back guarantee, I honestly do not think I am falling prey to " financial expectation bias" at all.
Just my thoughts....
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Prof
Obviously you have decided to take a leaf out of Georges book.
That is just quoting a small part of ones post to change the meaning entirely.
A pretty petty little parlour trick imho
Have fun..... |
Mapman
I am pretty sure that was included due to having had similar experience on the previous SR fuse threads.
Not saying I condone that verbage but I do see where Frank was coming from.
Still there was never any intent imho to try to persuade others to buy fuses, sure with positive accolades you can expect that some will rush out to do so but one should ALWAYS do their own research and due diligence before parting with their money! |
Well I am doing what any good audiophile should be doing right now.
Sitting back and enjoying the music.
Alf by Alison Moyet.
Superbly produced and mastered l.p. playing back through my system with yes Sr blue fuses.....lol.
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Thought we already had liquid filled fuses.
At least semi liquid
Audiomagic beeswax fuses I believe
Oh heck even more moolah than a SR Blue fuse though.
Wonder if it matters what type of bee?
Maybe it might need to fly backwards for directionality.
You know
Zzub, zzub |
George
Just fyi
Today has been a good spirited post type of day.
Some good posts from opposing points of view.
And guess what
Not one member stooped to using the term "snake oil" until somebody rattled your cage.
Go figure huh! |
Funny how hardly anybody else feels the need to use the term in every post though is it not?
Honestly I could not care less because all it does is make you look petty and cause your posts to run the risk of being removed.
So if there was even a grain of intellectual interest in your posts you are dooming them to the sin bin right from the get go.
But feel free and carry on my wayward son. |
I was referring to THIS thread George , this thread!
As well you know but no, you try to play the obtuse card.
Yes please dig back into the 2000,s to link stuff, at least it gives you something to do and keeps you away from here while doing so! |
A portion of a message from a fellow member, not sr blue but still another example of people who actually listen to changes!
"Your replacing the fuse intrigues me as I found that replacing the fuse in my PS Audio Directstream DAC significantly improved SQ. I initially replaced with SR Red, which I really likes, and then the Audio Magic Beeswax SHD fuse, which was even better and more liquid in it's sound. Many guys on the PS Audio site swear by the AM Beeswax fuses, for what it's worth. "
Ho hum....
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Frank
If women have much better hearing why does my wife not seem to hear me when I tell her those shoes she is looking at are too expensive?
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Eddy
What's a CD player??
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Eddy
From my experience I would concur that DAC and pre amps seem to respond the best, and of course the phono stage is in reality a pre amp.
Although I did hear some improvement in a BAT power amp, biggest changes to my ears were in a DAC and in my phono stage.
Good luck and please let us know how it goes! |
Eddy
Really nice to hear your faith was rewarded in a pleasant way.
I am in same boat as that I have no idea how they do what they do in my system.
But they do, I am happy and to heck with anybody who does not want to believe.
Enjoy the vibes! |
You got that right George! |
40 years living in England never heard the term Tru-Fi.
Call us old school but it was always hi-fi.
Maybe Tru-fi is the grown up tuned version of hi-fi? |
Bo
You really should have participated in the "talk but not walk" thread.
You would have fit right in and had a blast with MG and all.
I think the discussion would have been very interesting to all
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Now this could be seriously interesting....
Eddy, will you be replacing the bikes fuses with Blue ones though?
Seriously that sounds like a fun way to spend a month, enjoy! |
Frank
Looks like your thread has been hijacked! |
Ozzy
Nice to hear
And awesome amps that now sound even better!
Sweet! |
+1 Geoff.
Without naysayers the majority of these threads would be 20 post count or so only!
Cheers!
Now where are those darn Purple fuses......
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WTH?
Where there did that come from and why?
Is Wolf that bored he just needed to stir the pot again? |
Once more into the breach dear friends...... |
C,mon Wolf
You know the next ones are going to be Purple, will take 180 days to fully break in and cost $240 each and contain snail entrails.
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