Thanks gents, I just ordered Eva by Heart, Live at Blues Alley, Simply Eva and Nightbird. Here's a couple of great female musicians I stumbled across.
Imelda May: Life, Love, Flesh and Blood
Introducing Hope Waits |
Crazy.......I just realized I had Eva’s Songbird and put it in. What an incredible voice! How this cd missed my attention is beyond me but better late than never. Ordered 4 more of her CD’s.
If you like sultry voices with a rock/blues/jazz vibe you’ll like May and Waits, Lance.
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Congrats Kenny,
I found the stock NOS tubes with the MZ didn't come close to matching the 40's RCA's, TungSol round plates or 40's Sylvania's I rolled in. The MZ responds well to tube rolling and you're in for an even greater treat when you do so. Have fun! |
Looks like the Brilliance is another great sounding Tekton speaker.
Congrats Jeffrey. I'm so envious of you. Can't wait to hear more of your impressions of the Ulfberhts. If I recall correctly you have the DI's also? I'm VERY interested in hearing a comparison of the two. |
Thanks for nothing jeffrey, now I'm going to have to start saving up for the Ulfberhts! I had a feeling they were going to be really special. If they provide an additional 20% more than the DI's that's saying A LOT! Please keep us updated as they break in. I'm quite sure the bass will improve along with the blending of all of the drivers.
Vitop, the common misconception about these tweeter arrays is that the number of tweeters will muddle the sound. That might happen if the tweeters were all actually providing the highs, but in reality only the center tweeter does while the six circling it produce high midrange. Teajay gave a great explanation of this a couple of pages ago. Eric really thought outside of the box here. I think your concerns will be unfounded when you get your mini Ulfberhts. I'm really looking forward to your impressions when you get them, they could be a great alternative to those like me that will find it difficult coming up with $12k. |
That makes sense vitop. The Brilliance use Seas drivers I believe instead of the Emminence drivers on the DI's. Might that lead to more clarity? I don't imagine the Brilliance are a lot more clear than the DI's as I find the DI's to be exceedingly clear. The PMD line might be a whole different story though as Eric is using the best drivers, crossovers, capacitors and wire possible for his to achieve his goals. As jeffrey has alluded to, the Ulfberts take realism and dynamics to a whole new level. As much as I love my DI's I'm going to do my best to get the Ulfberhts or mini Ulfberhts. |
I'm quite sure your mini Ulfberhts will be using the PMD components vitop. It's going to be a great sounding speaker I'm sure. Can't wait to hear your impressions of it. It reminds me of when I ordered my DI's, I had a vague idea of what they were but just trusted Eric. After he built them he sent me pics and I was like "Holy #€£!". Please share with us any details as you get them. Thanks
i didn't realize any of us were upset, just throwing around ideas as to why the Brilliance might have a bit more clarity than the DI's. Eric's designs are fun trying to figure out.
When ordering my DI's Eric mentioned the Brilliance to me but knowing my propensity for more dynamic speakers he steered me towards the DI's. I believe he said the difference between the DI's and Brilliance is similar to the difference between the Pendragons and Seas Pendragons. The Seas being more refined but not as dynamic. |
Sounds like you've got a real winner on your hands Jeffrey. With time the soundstage might open up and become more recessed. Not that it needs to as from your descriptions they must sound amazing, but I know both my Tektons seemed to open up more with time. Your drivers and caps might take longer than the regular Tekton components to break in. Do you happen to know what caps he used in Ulfberhts? Your description of their realism in tone is very intriguing. How can one not love a speaker that makes vocals and instruments sound real? Especially piano, that's one of the most difficult sounds to properly duplicate and it sounds like the Ulfberhts nailed it right out of the box. Very impressive. Thanks again for sharing. |
You're going the opposite route that I am, Jeffrey. I'm driving my DI's with the one watt LTA MZ2 and I'm still amazed by the sound I'm getting. The BK's with the Ulfberhts could bring the house down! No wonder the drum shots startled you out of your seat. I'll probably add an amp to my system down the road but just a small SET amp or vintage tube amp. For a crazy dynamic system I'll move the DI's to my SS theater system to rock out to. I'd recommend that you try a small tube amp with your Ulfberhts but from the sounds of it you're good. Realistic piano.....doesn't get much better than that. |
Hey Charles,
If I go that route I'll get the 2A3S FFX with Hashimoto/Sansui transformers. If I can afford them, the Frank's will be in consideration also. I'm also going to visit Andy at Vintage Tube Services in Grand Rapids to check out some vintage tube amps. Let the fun begin! |
Thanks Teajay, just the kind of input I needed. While it sounds like one couldn't go wrong with either amp the 2A3 sounds like my cup of tea. |
Yes Kenny, the ZOTL 10.....especially the new, upcoming ZOTL 10 with a new upgraded power supply......was my choice until teajay's experimentation with amps. The LTA MZ2 driving the DI's with its one watt is fantastic but as Teajay mentions, the SET amps add more texture to the sound or meat on the bones and that's what I'm looking to add. I get plenty of volume, bass and dynamics using just the MZ2, adding the ZOTL 10 would give me more of the same. According to Teajay the MZ2 alone sounds better than the MZ2 with the ZOTL 40 on the DI's. I can't verify that but can verify that the MZ2 drives the DI's amazingly well.
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Kenny,
youre totally correct regarding the limitations of the MZ. I rarely listen to classic rock and when I do I do so on my SS system.
Im with you on using great NOS tubes with the MZ. I'm currently using the TungSol round plates and 40's Mullard 12AT7's and have a pair of 40's Sylvania 12SN7's on the way. Im loving my current sound and if the Sylvania's improve it further......better yet! |
Jeffrey,
thanks for the update and please keep them coming. The Ulfberhts must be amazing to better the DI's in bass and detail. I'm not surprised they do as Eric went all out with his best design utilizing the best possible components to create the sound he was after. I believe proper room treatment is essential for the best sound with any speaker but even more so with the likes of the DI and Ulfberhts as they produce prodigious amounts of sound. Adding floor to ceiling 2'x2' bass traps in each corner with quadratic diffusers on side and back walls and ceiling really make my DI's sing in my relatively small room with less than 8' ceilings. The Ulfberhts would probably be too tall in my vertically challenged room but the mini Ulfberhts might work.......they fit my budget better too :) I hope to hear the Ulfberhts someday though, I bet they are amazing. I'd really like to hear them with a small SET amp........you get your Ulfberhts yet Teajay?
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Can't wait to see pics Lance. That orange should be sweet. More importantly I'm looking forward to your accessment of them. As you know I'm also a user of the Herbies threaded Giant Gliders. They work very well for me. Davids set up is quite interesting also but with my low ceiling I don't want raise my speakers any higher.
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Bulllit,
have you checked out Odyssey Audio? Great sounding SS gear, well made in the US at very reasonable pricing. You won't be able to get their top of the line Kismets but you should be able to get their Khartago stereo amp. Klaus is a great guy to work with also. |
Bullitt,
the reason I recommended Odyssey is that they are very musical and great with home theater also. I had the Kismet Monoblocks and Candela pre until getting bit by the tube bug. The dynamic slam with the Kismets and Tektons was bone jarring. I'll be getting the Kismets again when I get my theater system going again. The theater gives me a good reason to get the mini Ulfberhts so that I can move my DI's into the theater system ;)
Someone asked about the Raven amps. I had their Blackhawk integrated amp with the DI's at first and while it sounded quite good it was noisey. Another Raven owner with DI's experienced the same problem....a buzz/hum that could easily be heard from 10' away. My Decware Torii was much more quiet ( could only hear the same sort of buzz up to a foot from the speaker) and my LTA MZ2 is dead quiet. Each successive amp in my system produced more realistic music also and hopefully my next amp will be the most musical yet!
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Bullit,
you will love the Odysseys with the DI's......both with music and HT. The dynamics will astound you, the Odyssey really grips the drivers and can produce prodigious sound levels and slam. They can also produce a very musical sound, albeit not as musical as a tube amp IMO, with great detail and delicacy. Klaus really knows how to tailor his stuff to your needs, equipment and preferences. Are you going with the hybrid Candela pre or the SS pre? If you go with the Candela definitely get some nice NOS tubes for it.
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Bullitt,
yeah, they take a while to fully break in but after about a hundred hours they start sounding very good. That first hundred hours can be quite interesting as the sound wanders all over the place. You're going to have a very impressive sounding system, the wait will be worth it. |
Soundernm,
If it's on the internet it must be true :)
I can tell you without hesitation that the majority of those posting about their Tekton experience here are for real......including me! I've had two members from the site come over to hear the DI's and it was fun seeing the expression on their faces upon hearing them. Probably the same look I had upon first hearing them.....how can they sound this good? It would be a shame allowing one poster you don't feel comfortable about to sway your decision in light of the many positive reviews, including those of a known professional reviewer and an audio dealer......but then maybe you're a shill ;) |
Does that man ( Eric ) ever sleep? He's certainly not one to rest on his laurels. New designs, new speakers, new drivers.......he never rests! The most amazing thing to me is how he makes every speaker sound so good no matter the design......at least the five models I've heard.
While I've always been a full range speaker guy, those new impact monitors sure are intriguing. Makes me wish I had an application to try a pair.
My current fav set up is my LTA MZ2 with 40's Sylvania 12SN7's and 40's Mullard 12AT7's driving the DI's. Yep, the one watt MZ2 drives the DI's very, very well.....unless you're wanting live rock concert level sound. I'll eventually add a SET amp but I'm very content with the MZ2 for now. |
Loreena sounds heavenly on my DI's. Along with the Chieftains, the Wailin' Jennys and all my other fav female artists.
I don't know what your budget is LP but getting the most expensive Tekton you can afford isn't a bad way to go. I had their Enzo's before getting the DI's and loved them. I bet the Enzo 2.7's are sweet having the same tweeter array as the DI's but if you can afford the extra grand the DI's are hard to beat. Of course there are the DI SE's, mini Ulfberhts and the Ulfberhts if you really want to stretch the budget!
Ive heard the Lores, Enzo's , DI's, Enzo XL's and Pendragons......differences between them? Definitely. But not a bad sound in the bunch......with the DI's definitely the best of the ones I've heard. I almost don't want to hear the Ulfberhts......I'll fall in love with them and can't afford them! |
LP,
I believe your concern about the DI's being too large for your room is unfounded. They virtually disappear providing a side wall to side wall soundstage and sound equally well at low or high volume levels. Eric also contends that physical size shouldn't be an impediment unless the speakers are physically too big to fit into the room, smaller rooms will most likely need more room treatment, especially bass traps. Obviously you wouldn't use the DI's in a very small room but they are perfectly fine in my 13x17 room and were great in my 12x14 room also. The DI's are physically large and can throw a huge wall of sound but don't let their large size fool you, they can be as delicate and refined as needed.
It's both and exciting and aggravating wading through all of Tektons offerings......and yes, the site needs A LOT of professional help! Unfortunately many design guru's focus all their energies on building a better mousetrap without recognizing the importance of marketing plays in a business plan.
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Yes Jonathan, great post.....thanks.
While im very happy using my one watt LTA MZ2 to drive my DI's I will add a SET amp to the mix soon. You're so right.....the size of the speaker is of less concern than the size and quality of the amp. The DI's sound just as amazing, if not more so, at low volumes than high. I usually listen at mid 60- mid 70's db yet can achieve mid 90 db with the one watt. My DI's are only 6' apart with my listening position 7' away.....quite intimate. Eric is now preferring a 6' separation over the 8' he used to advocate.....of course room dimensions, upstream components and listening preferences could easily dictate moving them further apart.
All I need to do now is choose a SET amp but I'm loving the MZ so much I'm not super motivated to do so. |
Thanks teajay,
Great write up.........as per usual. I was leaning towards the Triode Labs 2A3S- FXX with the Hashimoto output transformers. It's a done deal now. If all goes well I'll get their 2A3 monoblocks. As much as I love driving the DI's with the MZ2 I realize there's always room for improvement and by your description the 2A3 is just what the doctor ordered.
Ill have to try the Brimar 6060's. Right now I'm loving the combination of 40's Mullard 12AT7's with 40's Sylvania 12SN7's. I have the TungSol round plates and like them a lot but prefer the high end detail and realism of the Sylvania's. That's what's great about tubes.....a flavor for every listener.
Thanks for for sharing all of your experiences, it's been very helpful. |
Haven't you read the many posts of those using SS amps with their DI's and are loving the sound, fetguy? By not doing so you run the risk of posting an incredibly uninformed post. Oops, too late :)
Many of us, including Terry London, prefer SET amps with the DI's but just as many prefer large SS amps with them. You might want to actually read some of what they've posted, you only have to look a few posts back to find them. I've tried ARC, Levinson and Odyssey but prefer small tube amps but I'd never knock anyone for going the SS route as there's a lot to ne said about going that route. And yes my self-consuming gain device glow is might purdy :) |
Teajay,
that consonance cyber 30 looks like a fun little 2A3 SET amp to play with until I can order the Triode Lab 2A3S FFX. Approximately how close will the Cyber 30 get me to the Triode Lab? Thanks. |
I think you're on the right track with the Odysseys and DI's for your HT system, bullitt. I tried for far too long to integrate a tube amp into my HT system before building a dedicated listening room for 2 channel. Once I decide on the DI's, DI SE's or mini Ulfberhts for my two channel system I can focus on getting my HT system again.
I question whether audioman has actually heard the DI's. " refined and detail champs they're not"....... I beg to differ, they are VERY refined and detailed. Maybe he heard them in a system and/or room that is lacking. All too often the speakers get too much credit or blame for how a system sounds.
This thread has been a delight and is the only thread I participate on. There are not only many respected, knowledgeable and astute posters, but they do so with class and dignity. Well done! |
Craig, it's funny that you mentioned that the DI's have you enjoying classical music again. I've always liked classical music but never bought much of it to listen to.....having the DI's is changing that and I'm adding more classical to my collection. The DI's dynamic qualities along with their detail, refinement and tonal balance makes them perfect for classical music I would think. Perfect for any music actually. Many people assume that due to their large size, large woofers and number of drivers that the DI's are party animal speakers, yet they are as delicate and transparent as any speaker I've owned......and yes, they can rock the house too!
Ron, congrats! Bass shouldn't be an issue at all with the DI's. Like you mine are in a similar size room with low cielings. Floor to ceiling bass traps in each corner worked wonders for me. I think once you get your room situation addressed the bass from the DI's will put a big smile upon your face. I also had the Legacy Focus SE's and found the DI's to have just as deep of bass with better quality, especially in the upper bass regions.
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Thanks Craig, I just ordered it. Only $109.....for 80 cd's, sweet deal. Not sure I'll get to the point of ripping them to remove the tape hiss as I'm old school and just do Redbook CD's. Someday I might graduate to ripping and downloading! Thanks again for the tip.
Kenny, congrats on the ZOTL 40. Looking forward to your impressions of it. I was going to go that route but I just have to try the 2a3 SET first. |
Hey Lance,
glad to hear you are enjoying the DI's, especially with the MZ2......together they make a killer budget friendly combination.
deep, musical bass is something the DI's excell at, maybe some tweaking of speaker and/or listening position will get you all the way there. Herbies Giant Threaded Gliders improved the bass on mine but I think you already have them. The same goes for the TungSol round plates. How far apart are your speakers? Moving mine from 7' to 6' O.C. filled in the bass more......as does pulling the speakers 4-5' out from the back wall. Easier said than done more often than not.
Once your DI's are fully dialed in I'll be very interested as to how they compare to your Janszens. Both great speakers and each will probably do things better than the other. It never ceases to amaze me how the DI's are constantly being compared to speakers costing many times more. That alone must put a smile upon Eric's face :)
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Mr M,
While I've not owned any of the latest Vandersteen models I enjoyed the model 1A's, 2 CE's and 3A's for many years......along with a pair of 2w's. I've been a Vandersteen fan for many years but the DI's provide a level of musical realism that no other speaker I've owned has duplicated. There are many great speaker manufacturers, and IMO Richard Vandersteen is one of them, yet for me Eric Alexander of Tekton Design has made the music more real than any other. I look forward to hearing what his PMD line has to offer. Just my 2 cents. |
No Craig, I haven't......or at least I don't think I have. I have the first pair of DI's made, so whatever tweeters Eric started with is what I have. I don't imagine changing tweeters will affect his patent too much as the concept stays the same......usIng low mass transducers to replicate real sound. I imagine Eric changed drivers due to availability or to improve upon the sound.
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🐸 green with envy here Jeffery. I can only imagine how amazing the Ulfberhts sound. I just might have to start saving and spring for a pair next year......by then Eric will probably have introduced 6 more new speakers!
Grills? That's sacrilegious Craig! Why hide all those drivers? ;)
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Yikes Craig! Thankfully my pit doesn't even notice my speakers or ever raise a leg in the house....but I can certainly see your need for grills now. Maybe a properly timed canon shot from the 1812 overture when your four legged friends raised their legs would scare the p*$$ out of them and save your subs from such humiliation :) In all seriousness, while I personally prefer speakers sans grills, I can appreciate the cleaner look with them.
Yes Jeffery, keep us posted on the Ulfberhts development. Now that they've broken in more how do the DI's and Ulfberhts compare? |
I'll check it out Craig. Btw, I recieved the Bernstein 80 cd collection you recommended......man, what a sweetly packaged set it is. It will take me months to go through the collection and I look forward to it.
My 75 lb pit is a diva and thinks he's a lap dog too. How can one not love a loving dog in their lap? |
Jeffery,
you might want to try spikes or feet with your speakers. I don't know about the Ulfberhts but it definitely improves the sound of the DI's and other Tekton speakers. Without something filling those threaded holes bass escapes from them making them slightly boomy. I learned that by leaving the spikes out in order to position the speakers easier until I found the best location for them. When I told Eric I was doing that he said not to as I wouldn't get the proper bass response without the spikes and therefore wouldn't be able to position them properly. Screwed the spikes in and the bass was much better.....so as good as your Ulfberhts sound now they just might sound even better with those threaded holes filled. |
Lance,
It's hard to believe one watt can drive the DI's so well, but I'm a big believer in the MZ2/DI combo. I'm still going to add a SET amp down the road to add that "more meat on the bones" Teajay describes, but I'm in no rush to do so as the MZ2 with the NOS TungSol round plates and 40's Mullard 12at7's is sounding so sweet right now. NOS Brimar yellow T label 12at7's on the way.......thanks to Teajay's suggestion.
Glad you're enjoying the DI's. Once they fully open up they are something to behold. The MZ2 with the DI's is a match made in heaven. |
Add me to the list of those interested in your impressions of the KingKo, Bill. I'm still loving the MZ2 driving my DI's but will be adding an amp sometime this year and while I'm pretty much set on the Triode Labs 2A3S-FFX, the KingKo could be something to play with until I get it. I should probably try my vintage HH Scott 340B and Magnovox console tube amp or even my Decware Torii MK IV with the MZ2.........but I'm enjoying the MZ2 too much to try anything else!
My Brimar yellow T label 12AT7's arrived today, I'll be listening to them tonight. Thanks for the tip on them Teajay. |
For those using the LTA MZ2 with your DI's I concur with teajay's recommendation of NOS TungSol round plate, black glass 12SN7's with the NOS Brimar yellow T label 12AT7's. Absolutely stellar. Beautiful tone and textures, huge and open soundstage, excellent detail and deep, powerful, controlled bass. I really like the 40's Sylvania 12SN7's and 40's Mullard 12AT's also, but the TungSols with the Brimars is my favorite combination.
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Hey Charles,
Yes, the MZ2 with the NOS TungSols and either Brimars or Mullards sounds absolutely stellar to me......but then I've not heard a SET amp with my system yet so I bet there's still room for improvement. Teajay's suggestions have been spot on and while I'm loving the sound of the MZ2 driving the DI's I need to hear what that extra meat on the bones brings to the table. My system sounds better than ever but I'm still searching for that perfect balance of great bass, dynamics, tone, texture, airy highs and realism. At this point I the MZ2 provides great bass, dynamics, speed, realism and tone. The TungSols increase the size of the soundstage and add to the texture, tone and bass. The Mullards bring even more texture and warmth while the Brimars excell at high end detail and air. Combining the Mullards strong points with the Brimars would be ideal and I'm hoping a SET will bring bring to the table what the Mullards do and I can get it all. I know......I want it all! :) I need to have you over to hear what sound I have now and get your advice as to whether or not I'm going in the right direction. Going from 1 watt per channel to a whopping 3.5 watts is a huge!
Great write up Bill. Sounds like you have a sweet amp on your hands and it makes me want to add an amp to my system even more now.
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Porscheracer,
your Schiit/Tekton DI would indeed make a very formidable budget system. I owned the Yggy for two years and still consider it one of the best DACs I've owned. Another formidable budget system would be Linear Tube Audio with the DI's. I'm using their $1800 preamp/headphone amp to drive the DI's and its one watt of pure class A drives them beautifully into the mid 90 db range. For concert level rock or classical it won't suffice, but LTA is coming out with their new ZOTL 10 with an upgraded power supply soon for $3000 and that would be plenty of power for the DI's. Just thought I'd throw a tube option your way. It's great having companies like Tekton, Schiit, LTA and others that are passionate about building quality audio products at prices the common man can afford. |
I had a hard time believing 1 watt could properly drive the DI's but I took Terry Londons advice and gave it a try. It's been a VERY pleasant surprise. I was very skeptical before trying it yet it sounds much better than my 220 watt SS Monoblocks or 25 watt PP tube amp. Reaching mid 90 db without any discernible distortion with one good watt is quite amazing to me. I too used to think one needs to get more wattage to justify higher cost, but like many here I've been shown that with HE speakers like the DI's, very few quality watts are needed to provide beautiful music.
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Lance,
Still just using the MZ2 to drive the DI's or have you moved the ZOTL 40 into that system? While the ZOTL 40 would be overkill with the DI's I'd be interested if you find the DI's sound better with only the MZ2 as teajay did. As you know I'm loving the DI/MZ2 combination and am only considering adding a 2A3 SET amp to add more texture and SET tube magic, not for more power as the MZ2 is amazingly dynamic with terrific bass. It boggles the mind that a mere one watt can produce such glorious sound. Hallelujah! |
Agreed, overkill wasn't the right word to use, but 40 watts certainly isn't necessary with the DI's......that doesn't mean having more wattage is a bad thing either. The ZOTL 10 would be plenty for the DI's, yet Terry London prefers using the MZ2 alone over the MZ2/ZOTL 40 combination and prefers the MZ2 with the Triode Lab 2A3 SET amp the most. Until living with one watt driving the DI's I would have never believed it would suffice let alone outperform the 220 watt SS monoblocks I was using before going to tubes. While the big amps were certainly louder, more dynamic and sounded very good, to my ears they didn't come close to the musicality and realism of the MZ2......especially with good NOS tubes.
Youre right Craig, Eric prefers large SS amps with his speakers. I believe he recommended Bryston to me. I don't dislike SS amps, I especially like the dynamic slam they can provide, but over the years I've gone from the likes of the ARC D400, Levinson 333 and Odyssey Kismet Monoblocks to small tube amps. Eventually I'll have an SS system for HT and rocking out to in addition to my DI/tube system. |
No disagreement from me at all Craig. I agreed that using large amps certainly isn't a bad thing and that I spent many years going that route......and enjoyed doing so and that my current preference are small tubes amps. The great thing about the DI's is that they sound great going either way. As we all know its the quality of watts that matters more than the quantity.......my budget doesn't allow me the luxury of a quality 400 watt tube amp :) That would be something to hear with the DI's! I've always been of the mind that you can't have too many watts, as long as they are quality watts and I still have trouble believing how good the MZ2 sounds driving the DI's. It's as much of an endorsement of the DI's as it is of the MZ2......the DI's will sound amazingly good with any type of quality amp. I agree that physics and facts reign supreme and am not ignoring them but in the end it all comes down to our personal preferences. Here's a toast to enjoying our systems no matter the configuration.......I'll be doing so delving into the Leonard Bernstein collection tonight! |
Porscheracer,
While it goes against convention I can confidently say the MZ2's one watt drives the DI's beautifully with no flatness, distortion or loss of dynamics or bass. Nelson Pass could probably explain how it does so but I can't. There's an art and science to everything. I can attest to the art and how wonderful the MZ2 sounds but not to the science as to how it does. Frankly I don't care about the science, only the sound matters to me. I was TOTALLY skeptical about the MZ2 being able to drive the DI's properly but figured I'd need it for a pre amp anyways so why not try? It's been eye ( and ear ) opening! I guarantee that if you tried it you'd be as shocked and perplexed as I. I'll let others here explain how one watt is sufficient to drive HE speakers but trust me when I say it produces some of the most musical sound within its limits.....which is a sound level of about 95 db in my room with my listening position 7.5' away.
The DI's will sound great with a powerful quality SS amp, but don't rule out that they won't with one watt......physics or not. As good as my 220 watt Kismet Monoblocks were ( and they were very good) I prefer the MZ2 driving the DI's. You might prefer the SS amps but if you heard the MZ2 with the DI's you would be quite impressed. |
In my room I found virtually no toe in to sound best. I only have my DI's 6' o.c. so that might lead to them not needing to be toe'd in. My listening position is 7.5' from the speakers and the speakers are about 5' out from the back wall and 4' in from the side walls. The DI's don't seem especially sensitive to room placement but fine tuning them and your listening position will pay definite dividends. In smaller rooms like mine room treatment played a bigger role in sound improvement than speaker position.....but both lead to better sound and we're all after that! |
Arcticdeth,
There are actually two sets of drivers handling the midrange. Only one of the tweeters is handling the highs, the other six handle the upper mids and there are two 6" drivers handling the lower mids. The DI's are exceptional at conveying midrange......and bass.....and highs ;) |
Congrats sjwpwrpro.........glad to hear you're also enjoying all that the DI's offer. Huge sound is definitely something the DI's can portray, the fact that they are so detailed and sound great at low volumes really amazed me.
I'm really interested as to how the DI SE's compare to the DI's. Someone here ( my memory fails me yet again as to whom) with the DI's ordered the SE's and I look forward to their impressions.
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