I don’t know about anyone else but I’m getting a really strong urge to sing a few stanzas of Kumbaya. I’m also getting quite hungry with all this salad talk.
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Yes, glibson, we get that you aren’t really an audiophile, that you have no real interest in improving your sound, and cannot really develop a sense of how to actually debate any of the audiophile issues that appear on these forums, other than to pose as some sort of phoney baloney home spun Philosopher and facilitator. You aspire to be a Thorn in the side of audiophiles. Aka troll. If you can’t stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. Chill your jets. Take some Valium. At least you’re engaging in some form of walking. Walk it off. Feel better.
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Charlie Brown, Charlie Brown He's a clown, that Charlie Brown He's gonna get caught, just you wait and see (Why's everybody always pickin' on me?). 😢
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This is just a simple case of people hyper focusing on gear. Or hyper focusing on circuits. Or caught up in the upgrade stampede. What’s missing in these kinds of obsessive type syndromes is The Big Picture. They don’t call it Audio Nervosa for nothing. Asperger’s ugly sibling. 😬 This syndrome is also an example of stove piping 🏭 - not paying enough attention to what else is going on around you while you obsess over whatever.
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Well, I hope I’m not going to be accused of being an internet bully or of shooting fish in a barrel 🐟 🐠 🐟 🐟 but the reason folks use a break in machine is because simply playing music through cables is not sufficient to break them in. Not by a long shot. Even for many years. Without a machine or break in track they *never break in*. Knowing that is part of what I like to call the Big Picture.
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analogluvr Lol couple of great posts there guys, and you hit the nail on the head kosst. The thing is, unfortunately 99% of these guys have their mind made up and it’ll never change.
>>>>Geez, look who’s talking. I Googled Close Minded and there was a picture of analgluber. Oh, I’m sorry, I meant Devil’s advocate. 🤗
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Oh, my! I always took analogluvr at his word, that he was just being an honest Devil’s advocate. 🤭 |
Oh, geez, just when you thought it couldn’t possibly get any weirder. Full moon fever. 🐺
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Is there, like, a full moon or something today?
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What kind of day was it? A day like all days that alter and illuminate our times with lots of good old fashion audiophile banter. |
One of the more amazing devices ever conceived by audiophile is the rather innocuous inch and a half Mpingo disc, a combo of African rosewood and Mpingo wood with a tiny little surprise in the center. 🤗 Just one Mpingo placed judiciously in a room can transform the sound from bland to grand. 😁 I’m not hot doggin ya! 🌭
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glupson "...saying someone has been selling fire hazards when there has never been even one case..." This is not that much of a strong supportive statement. Having a nuclear bomb in a backyard would be some sort of a hazard, even when there has never been a one case of it exploding in someone’s backyard.
O..M..G! Wow! Leave to glubson to open with the nuclear bomb ploy. Will these people stop at nothing? What’s next? Oh, don’t tell me! They wouldn’t go THERE, would they? 😩 DON’T DO IT GLUBSON!!
POP QUIZ- how many audiophiles accidentally burned down their house in 2017?
Extra credit: how many audiophiles destroyed their neighborhood with an accidental atomic bomb detonation?
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Pop quiz : What’s inside the Mpingo disc?
Multiple choice
1. Nothing 2. Morphic Message 3. The word REDRUM 4. Tiny crystal 5. Graphene 6. Small rare earth magnet
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glupson I saw a monkey named Mpingo a few days ago. He was in a zoo and was quite cute.
>>>>That’s real interesting, glupson. Did you spike his banana with some psychedelics? Did you have a conversation?
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No surprise there, glubson. Monkeys don’t seem to get me. 🙈 Did the monkey spike your banana?
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They used to be all over the Internet for $40 previously owned but I haven’t looked in a while. Maybe some kind soul will read this and offer you some. But there’s worse news. It appears the usual sellers are out of stock. And no ads pop up on the used market. End game. 😫
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glubson just does one thing. And he does it fairly well. And that’s troll. It’s called glubson’s, Gee whiz, what about this, what about that? routine. It has served him well. He will string you along until the cows come home. 🐄 🐄 🐄
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You were talking to the dude from U2! Hey, you were trippin’!
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No, glubson, I cannot do anything well. Hey, i must already be you! |
The ladies used to call me tall, dark and hands, now that you mention it. |
Mitch, if you had a Mpingo disc in front of you you’d see there is obviously something inside. There is a barely perceptible circular cut out on the top side. The directionality of the Mpingo results from the grain of the wood. I would have thought that was obvious. 😛 anyway....Obviously, some people won’t have good results with the Shun Mook disc, just like for anything else you don’t really have to look too hard to find someone who can’t make it work. 😩 Psychacoustic. Lol I used to tune my knock offs by ear. No biggie. The Shun Mook Spatial Kit is more difficult to tune since it has three count em! Mpingo discs mounted on a bracket. If one is unaware of how to tune them they would not work, they’d interfere with each other. It takes skill to find the effective places for the discs. You cannot necessarily follow instructions. Many people, I suspect, are all thumbs. 👍👍👍👍👍 By the way, I was never tempted to open one of the little buggers up to see what was inside but I heard from a very reliable source (RIP) who did. Hint: it’s not nothing.
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Whilst brass can be effective for audio apps, especially with the right ballistic shape, as fate would have it brass is a *relatively soft* material and as such does not transfer energy out of the system as rapidly as much harder materials, especially tempered and cryod high carbon steel and NASA grade ceramics. I did not create reality.
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The FASTEN SEAT BELT sign just came on.
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It’s no. 4. Here’s the blurb from Shun Mook. Pretty sneaky, eh? Another tip-off is you almost never see a photo of the top of the Mpingo disc, only the bottom with the Chinese characters. Very sneaky. But if you can find a top view in images of Mpingo disc you can clearly see the 1/2” diameter cutout I’m talking about. I just found one on Google images.
“The Mpingo Disc is invented by the Shun Mook team. It is made from a combination of Gaboon and Mpingo Ebony, *treated with a proprietary process* that gives the disc a unique property to regulate the resonance of any sonic component and its transmission. Yet this is a very simple item to use. Just place one to three disc on top of your preamp, CD transport, DA converter, turntable etc, and listen for the wonderful change in your Hi fi system. When this disc is excited by any external acoustic energy, it will resonate throughout the entire audible spectrum, thus overriding unwanted harmonic distortions and at the same enriching the musical reproduction.”
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Ya gotta hand it to audiopoint and his feigned outrage routine. That has held him in good stead for quite some time here on the ‘Gon. 😬 We’ve even got a little bit of the Mutt and Jeff routine thing going with bro Tom.
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This is your captain speaking. Please fasten your seat belts. It looks like we’ll be going through some turbulence pretty soon. Smoke if ya got em.
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Huh? What does that quote have to do with your humble scribe? Oh, wait, I see, this is glubson at his/her peak. Bad glubson, bad! Besides, I don’t promote myself. I promote the truth!
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OK, let’s see, who’s nastier? My vote goes to bdp24. Second place goes to theaudiotweak. Sorry guys. There can be only one winner. Sorry, Tom, at least you tried. Costco_emoji would have had a shot but he keeps deleting his posts. |
What about this? What about that? Nice one, glubson!
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glupson geoffkait,
Do not get too upset. My questions are, in general, not addressed to you. So far, you have shown that you do not answer questions.
>>>>I don’t get upset. I get even. I don’t answer questions? Give me an example. That would so unlike me. Perhaps you are confused, pumpkin. Ordinarily if someone asks me what time it is I’ll explain how to make a clock. Have a nice day. Do not get too upset. I know it’s your nature.🌷🌷🌷
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Poor little jitter, still trying to get back in the game. Brain freeze down in Vermont apparently does last the whole year round. 😳
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I see no evidence you ever asked the question, glubson. Besides, I already answered a similar question from uberwaltz some months back. Yes, I know, pumpkin, what about this? What about that?
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I see no evidence you ever asked the question so I surmise you’re lying about it.
But to answer your question, I actually prefer not (rpt) to say which Panasonic model I’m using at present, now that you bring it up. I use maybe five different players in the course of a year, of different brands and models. I trust that answers your question.
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Liar liar pants on 🔥 You just don’t like the answer. And you were lying that you had asked me the question on some previous occasion obviously.
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Analgluber is still mad at me ‘cause I point out his (many) mistakes. Peace out 🌷🌷🌷
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I know you are but what am I?
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You’re close. Very close. It’s actually, WHY DO PEOPLE HATE HIGH END AUDIO SO MUCH?
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MG - I shall no longer be supporting you here. You are hereby given notice you’re on you’re own. Good luck. You haven’t learned anything since our days at Stereophile. Nada. You are like the Wizard of Oz, after all. A hoax. |
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Audio Insider meets the Audio Ding-a-ling. Howdy, Ding!
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stereo5 @geoffkait...………………………..
WRONG. It’s why do people hate geoffkait so much? You spoil almost every thread you engage in.
>>>>Double yikes!! That’s some pretty strong language there, cowboy. 🤠 Maybe you should try to keep in mind it’s only a hobby.
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wolf_garcia Left field tweaks utilizing unproven nonsense supported by gibberish like inserting the term "Quantum" here and there, and selling useless stuff on to the public at a huge profit ($2 fuses for 150 bucks that do nothing but stimulate the imaginations of suckers...magic and unexplained $500 magnetic placemats, etc.), are all part of the greedy snake oil creep cabal that will continue the fraud until the money goes away. Luckily this issue is sort of self-correcting as time in the markets shows the useless nature of this crap, and sends this stuff to the back room of irrelevant junk. This helps the tweaks that actually work to get some traction, and helps remove the stain of hucksterism from the world of ethical engineers and designers.
>>>I’m going out on a limb here....Asperger’s?
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Where do most people draw the line for Snake Oil? Well, way before the Intelligent Chip and the Teleportation Tweak I reckon. And waaay before the photos in the freezer tweak. And probably before the Schumann frequency generator, the Mpingo disc, fancy fuses, wire directionality and that cream you rub on CDs and cables and little holographic foils. I mean, come on! In fact, judging by what I see on these threads, most audiophiles are a little bit suspicious of anything more outrageous than aluminum cones. You might even say they’re superstitious. |
I did not see that coming.
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Excellent, excellent....and this just in from Audioquest!
Directionality: It's All About Noise
07.01.16 If you’ve ever wondered about the arrows on AudioQuest cables, read any of our educational materials, or merely followed any of the online chatter regarding our products, perhaps you’ve wondered what this “directionality” thing is all about.
There is the widely accepted version of directionality: In most audio-grade shielded interconnects, as compared to standard coax, negative has its own internal conductor and the metal shield is attached to ground at only one end, thus defining the cable’s directionality. Many cable manufacturers end their exploration of directionality there, going only as far as to mark their cables for directionality based on the relationship of shield to ground, but altogether neglecting conductor directionality. Because we believe in directing noise to where it can do the least harm, we, too, believe in the advantages of controlling for the attachment of the shield. In fact, long before we controlled for conductor directionality, AudioQuest interconnects were also controlled for direction based on the relationship of shield to ground.
Over the years, our understanding of conductor directionality and its effect on audio performance has steadily evolved, growing stronger and more complete. While we’ve always been keenly aware that directionality plays a significant role in the overall sound of any hi-fi system, we couldn’t completely explain it. This was okay: We trust our own ears and encourage listeners to do the same. The test is easy enough: Simply listen, then reverse the direction of the cable, and listen again.
In one direction, music will sound relatively flat and a little grainy, as though being forced through a screen door. In the opposite direction, the obstruction is removed and music will be communicated with a natural ease, depth, and an open invitation to pleasure. When presented with a cable whose conductors have been controlled for the correct low-noise directionality, a listener feels a sense of comfort and relief: Ahh…Music!
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mapman Of course the fact is there is but one damage control officer for wire directionality in these parts based on pure number of posts rambling on about it over and over.
Guess who?
>>>>This isn’t meant to start a fight but my repeating it over and over again doesn’t seem to help make it penetrate the thick membrane that protects your brain 🧠 from new and confusing information. You don’t even know what wire directionality is, do you, sweet pea? 😳
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almarg IMO. I don’t envision having any further comments on the subject.
Regards, Al
>>>>That seems highly unlikely. You are the self proclaimed Damage Control Officer for fuse and wire directionality. No sacred laws of science shall be abrogated on your watch, sir!
Regards, Geoff
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You’re the psychiatrist, sweet pea, not me. |