^^^ Allan ...
I'm using only one Herbie's dampener per tube. They are at the level recommended as the "default position" by Herbie's directions, and that would be about 1/3 of the way down from the top of the tube.
On the Caig Gold contact enhancement: You may notice a little brightness in the system after the application of the Pro Gold. Not to worry, it settles in rather quickly and the brightness is replaced by improved clarity.
Al ...
Thanks for the post regarding the directional properties, or lack thereof in the fuses.
I finally replaced the last SR Red fuse for the Black fuse. I took a fully broken-in SR Black fuse from the CD Player and put it into the phono amp then put the new SR Black fuse into the CD player to break in.
The sound coming from the phono amp was diffused as though the system was out of phase. The sound stage was wider, but nothing sounded quite right. I reversed the fuse and everything just locked right into place. The sound stage narrowed somewhat, but was much more focused with the fuse direction swap.
Don't ask me why or how, I just know that it does. Clearly audible to my ears .... and ditto for my friend Robert. Robert hears like a bat. :-)
By the way, Al ... Robert brought over a few of his "special" records for the listening session last night. These would be considered to be equal to some of Tom Port's "Hot Stampers." The AT ART-9 continues to amaze. What a cartridge!
Frank |
^^^ Nope, haven't tried the REF-6. I've been told that its a fantastic preamp.
What I've been trying to do over the past year is to see how far I can bring my present system by using tweaks that really work.
OP |
OMG!
Talk about luck ... we found two Decca 10" Django Reinhardt LPs in a used record store this week for ten-bucks each. They both feature Reinhardt on guitar of course, and Stephane Grappelly on violin.
The vinyl and covers are in mint condition. They are french pressings recorded in 1938, the year of my birth. The sound, considering the era, is excellent ... and talk about some swingin' jazz ...! Some real toe tapping music. Wow.
I'm going to burn both of them onto a CD and archive the records. They are way too nice to have an accident with. :-)
And by the way, another unabashed compliment for the way the Audio Technica ART-9 plays mono records. I thought the OC-9III was great on mono, but the ART-9 really raises the stakes. If you're thinking about buying a high dollar mono cartridge, I'd consider the ART-9 instead and keep a lot of bucks in your pocket.
Frank |
^^^ NIce ... thank you. Pretty much what we've all been experiencing. Very cost effective tweaks. I'm in the process of getting system covered with Herbie's tube dampeneres at the moment ... another VERY worthwhile tweak. After the tubes are done, I want to try a set of SR's PHT's on my phono cartridge. I've read some rave reviews on these little babies.
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To all of my friends posting here in the fuse pub ... I discovered a cool classical website this evening. You can subscribe for free. The sound quality is really quite good. Sounds great on my Audioengine A2+ speakers playing though my PC. Picture quality is excellent. They have a YUGE catalog too. http://www.medici.tv/Enjoy ... |
^^^ Over time I've been through an entire set of HiFi Tuning fuses, SR Red fuses and SR Black fuses
in each one of my components
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nyame ...
Wow. Don't throw it away. I'm sure there are plenty of guys out there who would love to have a spare Quad 57 treble panel ... or perhaps someone restoring an old pair of Quads. Why not sell it here on A'gon? |
Hi fleschler ...
Welcome to the fuse thread. Its good to see you posting here. You're going to love it when the SR tweaks get broken in. Like they say ,,, "You ain't heard nuttin' yet."
Frank |
nyame ...
Thanks for turning me on to Danny Barker. I'd never heard of him before and I have none of his recordings. In addition to great blues banjo, there's some really nice clarinet playing on the album as well.
I looked up Danny Barker on Spotify. They have three versions of "Fabulous" 1. A regular mono transfer. 2. A digital transfer. 3. Remastered for stereo. The best one? The original mono recording.
OP |
^^^ Steve ... You have such a beautiful dedicated room for your main system. How about posting it on the "Virtual System" site? I'm sure the other members would love to see it.
Frank |
fleschler ...
Could it be that the resolving power of the Black Duplex is revealing something that you haven't heard before in your LP playback like a rising top end in your cartridge, or perhaps revealing a brightness in your IC's and/or PC's connecting up your phono? I'm not saying these are the problems, its just a suggestion.
On mixing the outlets: David Pritchard has done exactly that in his three systems to good effect.
He's really been the go to guy on the outlets. He's been mighty scarce around these parts lately. Hopefully he will be prompted by your post to chime in here with his valued opinions
If you want, Robert and I can bring over a few of our "reference" albums and give a listen. Robert hears like a bat, and as you know, he's not one to dance around the truth. So if there's something other than the outlet causing the problems Robert will be able to hear it.
Take care ...
Frank |
Dave ...
Thank you so much for your wonderful post. You've made my day. Very humbling, I must say. :-)
It's been really nice to share the things that work in my system with fellow hobbyists, especially those folks who actually take the time and go through the expense of actually trying the suggestions. Its satisfying when other's get great results from these suggestions as well. This thread has turned out to be an excellent vehicle for that sharing.
Its all about getting us closer to the music we love so much.
This is such an interesting hobby where under normal circumstances its so expensive to attain significant improvements ... the kind of improvements that would usually take a major equipment upgrade, that when you find a simple tweak like a fuse for 120 bucks, people need to know about it. That's my take, anyway. The friends made along the way? ... well, that's a super bonus.
I want to wish everyone who has participated in this tread a very Merry Christmas.
Frank |
2channel8
Welcome to the fuse thread ...
Try the "source" equipment first.
Not a good idea using a solid copper plug in place of a fuse ... especially if your fire insurance isn't up to date, or if you can't afford new equipment to replace burned out circuits.
Happy listening ... |
^^^ Octopus sauce? Sounds like a rustic Italian dish to me. Man, I love Italian food. I always add a few anchovie fillets to my basic tomato sauces to improve depth. You can't detect the anchovies, but its a great "secret" ingredient.
Hope you have a terrific family dinner tonight. :-)
Merry Christmas. |
Grannyring ...
I have a friend who does exactly what you suggested with hard-wiring. I haven't heard his system as he lives in Utah and I live in California. But, he tells me about these improvements all the time. In fact, he's the friend who changed out the binding posts on my speakers for a quality set of Cardas copper binding posts. That was a significant improvement right there.
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^^^ When Michael Fremer did his factory tour of the Audio Research plant, part of the tour was a visit into ARC's listening room and an interview with ARC's chief listener Warren Gehl. Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a58bDqQQ-xYPart two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvL9FNuPwkEDuring Fremer's interview with Warren, Fremer pointed out the cable lifters under the speaker cables. Fremer kind of scoffed and asked Warren if they really worked. Warren's answer was ... "everything works." That's my take ... "everything" is a component including the room itself. So, unless everything is address from the room itself, to the equipment rack, to footers, to fuses, to tube dampeners, to the furniture in the room, to our listening position, to the tow-in of the speakers .... it all makes a difference. So if there are those who haven't had success with ONE tweak, and also haven't taken the time to address all of the issues listed above, its no wonder they can't hear the improvement that one fuse can make. This reminds me of last year's Newport show and the demonstration in the Synergistic Research room. Ted Denny played the system with most of the SR tweaks installed. It was as if we were listening to a wall-to-wall Imax theater of sound. It was truly great. Then Ted removed the SR tweaks and played the same music over again. Everything just collapsed. Still good, but not near the room filling sound. Then he brought the tweaks back into the room and everything blossomed again. The guy sitting next to me turned to me and asked if I could hear any difference. When I said yes, it was night and day, he just kind of gave me a little sneering laugh and said ... "well I didn't hear any change at all." He left me wondering what he was doing at a hifi show. So, it seems that no matter the improvement, there are those who just cannot hear it, or won't admit it. Its one of the great mysteries of the audio hobby, I guess. Frank |
nonoise ...
I have a "friend" like that too. The last time he heard my system, I had to endure two hours of him telling me how crappy my system sounded. Some folks just have no social filter, I guess. Funny thing is, we both have the same model of speakers. We both use tube electronics throughout our systems. My electronics are the modern variety (ARC) and his consists of Bob Hovland's modified classic stuff (Marantz).
In listening to my "friend's" system, he gets no sound stage to speak of. Everything is presented in a straight plane between his speakers. I hear no depth, nothing on either side of his speakers and no 3-D imaging to speak of at all. I will say though, he gets good clarity and tonal balance.
When he was listening to my system, his main "gripe" was that it was too holographic, and that the holographic part wasn't on the recording at all. He claimed that the deep sound stage, the instruments playing to either side of the speakers and the 3-D imagining were nothing but distortions being caused by my system ... mainly by the ARC electronics.
I kept telling him that what he was hearing was an accurate reproduction of the event. On one of my reference stereo jazz recordings for example, the piano was to the left and behind the sax player. The bass player was to the right and behind the trumpet player. The drum set was slightly to the right and behind the piano player. The musicians were spread out with each one a different distance from each other ... and that's the way the microphones picked up the sound. I even showed him the cover of the album that had a picture of the group in the exact positions replicated to a "tee" by my system. He remained pat in his opinion.
So, here's a guy who's system sounds really good, with excellent clarity ... but kind of uninteresting, telling another guy whose system is amazing (to my ear of course), that his system sucks. Why the difference? I don't get it at all. I guess that's why they make Fords and why they make Chevies.
Frank |
I texted David early this morning to wish him a Merry Christmas. He responded, so he's still around. I think he's been swamped at work.
Frank |
David Prichard .... Its wonderful to see your return David. The best to you and your Mom. She's a very fortunate woman to have a son such as yourself, David. So many children of our advanced Seniors won't expend the time, finances or energy until the time comes when its too late. That's when one of the Universal Laws dawns on them ... and that is that discipline weighs ounces and regret weights tons. dlcockrum ... On the SR Atmosphere level III PC's ... They replaced some very highly regarded PC's that were in the system for about five years or so. Initially, the SR's gave an overall improvement. Then, just like the Black fuses, I heard the abnormalities. I started a thread in the A'gon cable forum regarding the SR Atmosphere PC's. Here's the link: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/synergistic-research-atmosphere-power-cordsSince adding the SR Atmosphere PC's to the system, and a few months after attending the Newport show, I acquired a pair of Von Gaylord "Return of The Legend" speaker cables and two Von Gaylord "Return of The Legend" IC's. The combination of the two makes of cables in the system was a real match made in musical heaven. For those of you not familiar with Ray Leung, the designer of the Von Gaylord products, I can tell you that he's a real gentleman and a genius of a designer. I was completely blown away by the natural tonal balance and the overall sound in his demo room at the show. Here's a link to his site: http://vongaylordaudio.com/beta/Here's a link to Ray's cables: http://vongaylordaudio.com/beta/cabling/Yes, expensive stuff ... but just like the SR products, with Ray Leung's "Return of The Legend" products you definitely get what you pay for. Frank |
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Hey, didn't we solve the directional thingie a while back in this thread with Warren Gehl's input about wire extrusion? |
I detest charlatans and snake oil salesmen too. That's why when I discover a product that works, like SR Black fuses and Herbie's tube dampeners, I like to spread the word. |
^^^ Charles ... I like to do a little at a time in order to gauge the improvement (or degradation) with each step in the "tweaking" process. I've been in the process of replacing the stock ARC dampening rings with Herbie dampeners. This is not a subtle change for the better. Its another ear opening experience. Herbie has a CD mat that just covers the inner ring of the CD. Its called the "Super Black Hole." It has some really good reviews, so I'll be trying that soon. And hey, Herbie's has a generous return policy too. http://herbiesaudiolab.net/cdmat.htm |
I don't care for technical jargon ... I just like to listen to music through a highly resolving music system. When the fuses are installed in the "wrong" direction the system sounds out of phase. Turn the fuse around and the image locks in with a terrific three dimensional relief. I hear it clearly and my audiophile friends hear it also. For the life of me, I cannot understand the controversy. You can analyze this stuff to death if you want to. As for me, I'll take Chet Baker's trumpet in my face. |
missti ..
I read an interesting article recently about Chet Baker. The author made the assertion that Miles Davis spent his entire career chasing Chet Baker's tone ... and never quite captured it. After reading the article, I can hear the author's point when listening to Miles now. |
Happy New Year to all of you who have taken the time to contribute to this very enjoyable thread. Its been a real pleasure for me to meet so many dedicated audiophiles here on A'gon. Here's to a great and positive 2017. |
Charles ... I stopped listening to Miles when he entered the "fusion" era. One of my favorite miles album is the original mono release on Columbia that I found in a used record store back in the early 70's. I think that's the era the author was alluding to. This album puts Miles' muted trumpet right there in front of you. If memory serves me right, I think I paid fifty cents for it. Man, those were the days for record collecting. Here's an original copy: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MILES-DAVIS-Round-About-Midnight-LP-COLUMBIA-CL-949-6-EYE-DG-MONO-John-Coltr... |
^^^ Thanks, Al & Charles.
On a side note ... who put Meth in the Clemson football team's Gatorade?
Next week, Clemson vs Alabama. It gonna be a war. |
nyname ...
"For Duke" is a wonderful record. I had two copies that I bought new, kept them for years, then about three years ago gave one to a friend. Someone here should take you up on the offer.
Al ... if you don't have it, your ART-9 will put the Duke Ellington orchestra in your room.
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^^^ Agreed, tommylion. Herbie's has a lot of interesting looking tweaks. After I finish with the tube dampeners, I think I'll try their little Black Hole carbon fiber CD mat. Nice reviews on that item. |
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And the cellos sound so damned good. |
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Let's say it costs $2500 to manfacture an amp. The factory sells it to the dealer for $5000. The dealer then sells it at retail for $10,000.
If you were the manufacturer, you would have to double the price of the fuse to the dealer and, the dealer in turn, would have to double the price of the fuse when selling the piece of equipment to the end consumer.
Now then, in the case of the high end fuse: The factory buys the fuse for $50.00 ... 50% of retail. The factory increases the price to the dealer by $100. The dealer then turns around an sells the piece of equipment marked up by another $200 to cover the new fuse.
As an end consumer, I would rather pay retail of $100 for the after market fuse than pay $200 for it placed in my new piece of equipment for me at the factory. |
To everyone posting here: Do any of you like coffee? I do. I love really great coffee. Its the only coffee I'll drink. Most think the swill Starbucks sells is good coffee. Most people are entirely satisfied drinking swill. They and their friends have been convinced through advertising that just because they spend 5 bucks on a cup of swill, the 5 bucks somehow makes the brew drinkable. Its not ... not by as long shot. The foul bitterness is due to burning the beans and producing in essence charcoal water. The person I bought my speakers from years ago convinced me to get into home roasting my coffee. He showed me where to buy the green coffee beans and all of the equipment needed to get things going. Once everything was set up and the first roast of Guatemala's finest was finished, I brewed a pot of the ebony elixir and took my first sip. It wasn't subtle; it was a revelation in coffee and how it should taste. I experienced hints of ripe plums and faint traces of nutmeg evolving into chocolate overtones as the cup cooled. Bright, crisp and no hint of bitterness at all. Here's the site I use. www.sweetmarias.com The service is exceptional and the coffee is the best you can buy. Expensive? Nope, average price is under seven bucks per pound. The initial investment in the roaster is about the price of three SR Black fuses. Tom, along with his wife Maria, run sweet maria's from their warehouse in San Francisco. Tom travels all over the world to visit small, family owned organic farms. He only buys the best in small lots. For those of you who love coffee like I do, and who can also hear the difference good after market fuses make, even with the ability of hearing the proper orientation of the fuses, I encourage you to visit sweet maria's site. Here's the roaster I settled on: https://www.sweetmarias.com/product/behmor-1600-plusIts totally reliable and you can use it indoors because it has a built in filter and doesn't smoke like most coffee roasters. Once you get the formula right on the roasts, you won't turn back. I've used the Behmor roaster for years with no problems what so ever. Here's the vacuum brewer I use. It produces an exceptionally clean cup of coffee. Much better than a French press by far. https://www.sweetmarias.com/product/yama-vacuum-brewer-two-sizesFor those of you who believe that coffee is coffee and it can't be improved upon, forget about it. Just remain in ignorant bliss while drinking swill. Yuck! And no ... I haven't measured the results. Frank |
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jetter sez:
"At a certain point saying how much you love your sound and then doing anything to change it under the guise of refinement seems disingenuous and bound to fail."
It seems to me, Jetter, that people come to this hobby in two flavors. There are equipment freaks and then there are music lovers. As for me, any improvement I make to the system that gets me closer to the music, I'm all in.
While I do "love" the sound currently offered up by the system, if the installation of a new tweak, Herbie's tube dampeners for example (highly recommended), allows for more realism, especially in the area of correct tonal balance, I'm on it.
I agree with you to a point Jetter ... most seasoned audiophiles have met the type who spend an ungodly amount on their equipment and have a paltry music collection consisting of mostly "audiophile" type of recordings. These are the equipment freaks who are just chasing their tails.
On the other hand, there are those who have thousands of recordings in their collections who listen through modified Dyna 70's and Dyna Pas-3's and enjoy every second of it. I wouldn't fault this guy for upgrading to a nice ARC Classic 60 and an ARC SP-14. Or for that matter, fault him/her for just sticking SR Black fuses in his Dyna equipment. Same thing applies all the way up the line.
When ever I'm invited to hear a system in a home for the first time, I always check the music collection out first. It says all one needs to know.
Its the music first ... always. :-)
Frank |
Over the last year+ that this thread has been in existence, our friend Wolf Man Jack, aka wolf-garcia, has made the following acidic accusations and assertions:
I am ...
1. A "shill" for SR.
2. An employee of SR.
3. Receiving a paycheck from SR.
And now, he comes forth to inform us that we who have transformed our systems with SR tweaks are:
1. Personally insecure.
2. We require "validation from others of our special listening skills."
3. That we live in a world of fantasy.
Also spewing from Wolf Man Jack's brain cells are insane and inane claims that the designers at SR are:
1. Foisting off a faux product onto naive audiophiles.
2. Manufacturing a faulty product.
3. Making an obscene profit.
4. That Ted Denny, the design engineer for SR, is a "snake oil salesman."
All of this coming from a guy who has never heard my system or the systems of anyone else posting here.Nor has he ever met Ted Denny, me, or anyone else reading this post.
All of this acidic poison is coming from a guy who makes a living producing sound for live concerts; venues that I have long ago stopped going to because of the incredibly high decibel levels attained at most of them. The last one was a Jon Luc Ponty concert years ago that was so loud I thought bombs were going off inside my head, the result of which, was like dragging dental floss through my ears. I walked out. Small venues, fine ... but no more rock concerts that try to pass deafening decibel levels off as good music. That's Wolf Man Jack's world, not mine.
Over time here on the A'gon site, I have promoted products that have actually made a significant improvement in my system and therefore have had the effect of improving the enjoyment of my recording collections. I would have to ask Wolf Man Jack, aka wolf-garcia, if I am also on the payroll, or a shill for:
1. Audio Research Corp.
2. David Magnan's cables.
3. Von Gaylord (Ray Leung's) cables.
4. Ben's Shatki Holographs.
5. Origin Live's custom turntable belts.
6. Audio-Technica's cartridges.
7. Well Tempered Turntables and all of the various tweaks necessary to bring one of these tables up as close as possible to state of the art performance.
Hey Wolf Man Jack ... Is Bill Firebaugh a "snake oil salesman" too?
All of the above, and much more, have made significant improvements in my system and have brought it to heights that I never would have imagined could be obtained in one's listening room. When I find something that really works, I find it fun to share it with my fellow audiophile friends, and I have with all of the above. That's all.
I want to assure Wolf Man Jack, aka wolf-garcia, that he hasn't affected me in any way ... other than to add a bit of humor, and at times an incredulous insight into a mind slammed shut.
In the meantime, I continue to travel along the path of what I believe to have been a wonderful journey through a positive life filled with a great family, wonderful friends, a lucrative career, great literature and of course, wonderful music.
Okay Wolf Man Jack ... your turn.
Frank
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Dave ...
I'm relaxed ... and I don't take Wolf Man Jack seriously either. I just had a sudden hankering to indulge myself in a little creative writing. Therefore, my previous post. :-)
highstream ...
Thank you for mentioning the music recommendations. Like I said before, in the end its all about the music.
I wish I could recommend the recordings Robert and I used for tonight's listening session, but to find them would be almost impossible. Robert brought over some CD's that he had burned years ago from a really good 78 setup he had at the time. I know he used a Grado 78 cartridge run through a Yamaha line stage's phono section.
We listened to mostly classical music with the best performance and sound coming from a 78rpm record that was recorded in 1928. Very natural sounding with bass that one wouldn't imagine could come from these old recordings.
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Charles ... I burned a copy of Robert's 78 CD recording but I didn't take note of the artists, orchestras or performances. It was a compilation of a number of recordings. There's surface noise as one would expect from 78's, but the music is there. mapman ... There's something really charming about the sound of the orchestrations on good 78's. They always remind me of the movies my mom would take me to when I was a kid. She always had music around her and she loved the old musical movies. Lots of good stuff like Betty Hutton, Dan Daily, Betty Grable, Gene Kelly, .... Check this Joe Houston recording out. I bought this when I was in Jr. High in 1953. Cost me a grand total of fifty cents ... brand new. This is what we listened to before the British Invasion and before Elvis hit the scene. It was rock & roll, but before the guitar replaced the saxophone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NgTGZHjVHAMore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NgTGZHjVHAThis was one of my favorites - Earth Angel by The Penguins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhXRDSO6wzkArtie Shaw 1938: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2_q7YsU4ak&list=RDc2_q7YsU4ak#t=29How about a little classic Al Jolson? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCniBUdWcmAYep, 78's played through a high end system can sound surprisingly good. Its like using a good audio system as time machine. Frank |
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Highstream ...
As you can see from my posts in this thread, the experiences I've had with the SR Black fuses are just the opposite of what the commentator was saying in the PS Audio fuse thread.
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We need an outside support group.
"Hello. My Name is Frank. I'm an Audiophile ... " |
Charles ...
On the 78 that I mentioned: The piece was an excerpt from Schubert's "Rosamunde" played by the Victor Orchestra, recorded in 1928. That was the cut with the good bass. Also on the disc is the theme from The Nutcracker played by the Freddie Martin orchestra. Its really good too.
Its pretty amazing that technology back then was as good as it was. The generations that came before us with their wind up Victrola's and their five pound tonearms sporting needles akin to tines on a pitchfork had no idea what was on those shellac discs. Of course most of them sound really bad by today's standards, but the good ones played back on a really good system is like a time machine back to the past. Now if only we had a Delorean and a crazy professor. :-)
By the way in case anyone is interested, I posted frequency response graphs in the ART-9 thread on some of the more popular (and expensive) MC cartridges to illustrate their rising top ends. Just little tricks of the cartridge trade ...
Frank
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Mapman ...
On the lack of information ... This is the type of thing that drives the engineer mentality crazy. Its completely understandable. If its not measurable, its not believable. The good news is, there are support groups for that condition as well. "Hello, my name is ... and I'm an engineer." :-)
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^^^ Thanks, Charles. I'll check them out.
Mapman sez:
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OP I know you are just joking but discounting engineers does not help. You’d have no sound at all in your home without them. Are you defending lack of information? "
Mapman ... I have nothing against engineers. Some of my best friends are engineers ... :-)
And by the way Mapman ... I, for one, do not want you to leave this thread. I enjoy your sense of humor. You don't indulge in personal attacks, nor do you insult people. A difference of opinion, and a civil discourse regarding the same, is a good thing ... its the way we learn.
Again, this thread is like a bunch of like minded guys sitting around the local bar discussing a common interest. Every once in a while "someone" has a little too much amber liquid and gets out of hand. Once sobered up, we all hope "he" comes back at a later date and will be civil. So far ... no luck.
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I was going to try out a whole compliment of the Bees Wax fuses, but I was afraid they would buzz. And of course, I didn't want to get stung by a snake oil bee. |
At what point will the naysayers promote the abolition of the patent department? :-) |
You guys crack me up. My patent office comment was made tongue in cheek. Actually, I was referring to an old story that back in the 1800's there were those who thought the patent office should be abolished because everything that could be invented had already invented. "Everything that can be invented has been invented." ---
Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899.
Frank
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George ... I don't think Barbapapa was referring to the technically gifted ones who contributed to this thread. I believe he was referring to the very few who keep beating the drum of skepticism in a negative way. Tonight's spectacular during the listening session was Milt Jackson's recording on the old Savoy label called "Second Nature." This two record set puts the musicians right there in the room with you. Highly recommended. Here's a link to a mint, unopened promo album. Please, someone buy it and share your thoughts here. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Milt-Jackson-Second-Nature-1976-Savoy-W-L-PROMO-COMP-M-M-2-LPs-UNPLAYED-JAZZ... |
