Synergistic New Tesla Line...Any comments?

Tbg, I have 3 Galileo MPC's on the way. Are these recommended to be used on all active shields and also power cables? Are you using a Quattro or QLS with a Tesla power cord to run the active shields?

OK, I got (3) Galileo MPC's last week. I'm keeping them and ordering (2) more to power my entire system's active shield using them. I'm opted not to buy a QLS-6 and use the bottom outlets on my powercell 10 SE. I'm trading in my Quattro towards the purchase. I will have a full review on A-gon site in a few weeks. Preliminary review, the volume seemed elevated and a greater sense of air and clarity with less darkness and congestion with 3 installed on Powercell, interconnects and speaker cables. The remaining (2) will go on the rest of my power cords and Rel Spec interconnect.

Why cant you mix and match??? I'm doing it with a single 2-lead Galileo MPC with my Rel spec interconnect and the T3 power cord going to the sub and it sounds fine. Why should you not mix and match? Does not make sense to me. Save the money and experiment. Order all you Galileos in 2 leads so there is upgrade potential down the road even if you don't need two leads now.

A few months ago, I had 1/2 my cables upgraded from the miniplugs to the Quantum Tunneled Adaptors. The new adaptors are better as they don’t come undone easily and have a much better connection. I'm currently having all the rest of my cables at Synergistic now and having them all upgraded. Also, waiting to the last 2 Galileo MPC's so my entire system will be powered by them. Review soon.

Finally, getting an ART system as well to try.

Hey Frankk, Go back and read the posts, we answered this question many times. All Synergistic cables are different and are VERY system dependent. The most expensive cable in the line is not always the best fit.

First, what are you going to use the Accelerator I/C for? The Accelerators can be gray and irritating in some systems and other not at all. Or if you use too many of them or in the wrong spot in your system. If you are getting an Accelerator use it from Pre to Amp. Even then it may or may not work. You have to try a full compliment of each cable. Borrow them from The Cable Company and then decide which one is best.

Scottmac62, demo the Hologram A. I say probably not as warm but more transparent and pin point and more detail and better airy clear highs. There is so much more with the Hologram A. Its a must demo if you are going all Tesla. Especially with the Hologram D on digital. They were designed to compliment wach other.

Bacardi, not true. The Galileo MPC's come in either mini-plugs or DC plugs "adaptors". The only difference is that the mini-plugs are not Quantum Tunneled and the DC plugs are QT'ed

Yep, the Galilo MPC's are gping to be a hit for Teslaphils. Its a great enhancement to the whole. I'm using 5 G shields on my entire system and love it.

I'm currently auditioning the Synergistic Research Acoustic ART room treatment system. It is sure more fun than I thought. It so small in size and easy to set up. I know I don’t have it dialed in yet but The Cable Company has been helping my. I'm leaning towards getting a set if I can afford it.

I use the Galileo MPC's on my entire system with great effect. Including my Rel spec sub cable and T3 power cord on the sub. Every shield benefits in my system.

Hi Scottmac62, I own both. The T3 UHC retails for $1200 and it is very similar to the T3 that sell for $900. The only real difference is the T3 UHC is used for power conditioners because of its extra run of wire and higher gauge. The two T3's are both warm and lush in the midrange, have a holographic presence, great sound stage air and layering, detail, and low frequency control and extension and a relaxed and musical balance.

The Hologram A is total state of the art and costs $2600 retail. It is a night and day difference. The Hologram A is Synergistic reference power cord for amplifiers and pre-amplifiers. It blends pin-point imagining of precise image placement with holographic illumination that expands the boundaries of your sound-stage. It has rich harmonic texture and layering with amazing detail and air that is never fatiguing while low frequencies that are tight and deeply extended with realistic attack and control.

If you want the ultimate go with the Hologram A on Amp and Pre. Ultimate on power conditioner is the Precision AC. The T3 and T3 UHC are also to be audition and go with what sounds best in your system. Contact The Cable Company for a full compliment to try and compare.

Hey Ted,

Thanks! That has been my findings and exactly what I have been recommending.

Best regards,
Joe

I was using a Teslaplex with an ar2p to a QLS9 in my HT system. I removed the ar2p and the system sound just as good if not better with out the ar2p. I sold it and used the money toward more Tesla power cords for the system which proved to out perform the ar2p.

Danielle, Here is a QUATE from Ted_d from 8/8/08 in this tread. "The T3 is a very good power cord for power-line conditioners but, as you have discovered, it takes a loooooong time to break in and settle down in this application. An improvement over the standard T3 design is the T3 UHC which stands for "Ultra High Current" and though the T3 was engineered as a high current power cord (perfect for high current amplifiers), after the advent of the PowerCell, a line conditioner capable of handling an entire system's power needs- power amps, pre-amp, front ends and even mono blocks, I was looking for a way to take my basic T3 design to the next level given the unprecedented current demands the PowerCell places on any power cord; hence the T3 UHC was born. As such the T3 UHC is a heavier gauge version of the already high gauge T3 design. As a power cord for line conditioners it presents music with more weight and mid-range bloom when directly compared to the basic T3 especially when you have a full system connected to a line conditioner, and it does this at a reasonable price.

However by far our best sounding power cord from the Tesla series for the new PowerCell, is the Precision AC. This cord adds a level of refinement, air, and inner detail and nuance not found in the T3 or T3 UHC when used in conjunction with a power conditioner. In fact our top of the line PowerCell 10 SE comes standard with a Precision AC power cord along with a slightly higher performance internal electromagnetic cell. So for a little more then you would pay for a standard PowerCell 10 with a T3 UHC, you can get a PowerCell 10 SE with a Precision AC power cord and 32 AMP Powercon connection in place of the standard PowerCell's IEC connectors."

Also, Danielle, the T3 UHC does come in 15 amp IEC. Just call up Ted and ask him to make you one. I have one in my HT system on my QLS. But I would recommend you using a T3 on your QLS. I think that would be enough and you wont notice that much of a difference with a T3 UHC.

Shellie, I'm pretty sure the T3 is thicker than 10 gauge and the T3 UHC is even thicker. As mine is a noticeably heavier. Ted has also stated that the T3 UHC is his highest gauge cord.

My Powercell does not radiate any heat and is cold to the touch with all the outlets in use.

The Powercell 6 is very similar to the Powercell 10Se. It only have 6 outlets and used 20-amp powercords. It is a little warmer and only shades below the 10SE.

Adwiegert is correct, I sold my Quattro and bought all Galileo MPC's for all 10 shields in my system. The Galileo's crush the Quattro in performance. The details have been discussed in previous posts.

Ozzy, Yes, going all Galileo is a significant improvement over the Quattro. I would not have sold the Quattro if it was not. I have all the MPC's plugged into the bottom outlets on my Powercell 10SE and I neatly coiled all the cables and they hide neatly under my audio rack and neatly snake to the DC plugs on my cables. My setup looks very neat and tidy. Just takes a little planning. Get a rack that has feet on a clearance underneath and neatly hide the wire there like I did.

I agree the Hologram D is jawdroping as Tbg described. Wait to you hear Synergistic's new MIG footers under your CDP. I just got them today. WOW! Review soon... ;-) I also have a set under my integrated.

Adwiegert, I got two sets of MIG's from The Cable Company to demo. They are really interesting to set up and pointing them up and down made a big difference in frequency response and soundstage. I decided I liked the pin-point position on my CDP because it extended the high frequency response with ultra clarity and I liked the ambient on my integrated amp. I have some more experimenting to do. These are very effective and fun to play around with because the differences are immediately noticeable.

TED, do you recommend a set to be used on my Powercell 10 SE?

Barcardi, nope. I used them on my solid Cherry wood racks with great results. I assume they work on all shelves.

Ted previously mentioned that his speaker cables work best when they are lifted 4 inches by either wood or some sort of plexi-glass or acrylic elevators. Maybe this is why this question is being made. But Ted has never suggested that anyone has to go out and change their racks to any specific material for use with his MIG's. It was my understanding that the MIGS work under any shelf. Get a few and see for yourself before you go out and buy any new racks. Unless you are currently in the market for some, maybe Ted can give you his preference or suggestion.

HEY EVERYONE!!!

The new Synergistic Research website is FINALLY up... Go and take a look. WOW!

Barcardi, I would e-mail/call Ted or Synergistic directly for other MIG recomendations. I dont think anyone has tried MIGs under their subs/speakers. Are you getting any MIGs for your components? Try them under your sub and let us know the results.

Tbg, Pin-point position was obvious under my CDP, because Ambient destroyed the high frequencies. Ambient sounded so good under my integrated so I did not even try the pin-point under it.

Which position do you prefer for your Powercell? I'm getting a 3rd set this week.

BTW, over 100,500 views .... WOW!

Yes TBG, a Percision AC power cord comes with the Powercell 10SE it has a 32 amp powercon connector and can only be used on the Powercell 10 SE.

Barcardi, no the MPC's in the bottom outlets do not clear the bottom when using the MIGS. I had to place an additional 1 inch under the MIG's for the MPC's to clear. I happened to have 3 Herbie's Audio SuperSonic Stabilizers that are 1 incg thick to raise the MIG's higher. A small piece of wood would also do the trick.

Hey Norm, You had the universal speaker cells in for a while now. Please compare with and with out the cells in detail with your Apex speaker cables. I'm still not sure if I wanna pay another $2,500 if my system sounds exactly the way I like it now.

Thanks! Joe

Thanks TBG, please let me know more about the Universal Cell when you can.

Has anyone else tried the cells? I like my system the way it sounds now. I may demo the cells later this year. As for now, I'm just listening to music and working on my HT system and integrating a Peachtree idecco and Sonos system.

Hi Barcardi, Go back and read the posts on this thread. A lot of your recent questions were previously answered in previous posts by Ted, me and many others that contribute to this thread.

I just wanted to let you all know. I had the Synergistic ART room treatment setup in my room for a few months. In addition to the GIK panels, the Synergistic Research ART room treatment is the single most important improvement of all Synergistic products, because it correctly treats the room. It centers the image and widens the soundstage and even outs the bass. The resonators really work. It is worth a demo from The Cable Company. Even if you dont have any Synergistic products, I would give this a try.

Maxwellssilverhammer, Did you get your speaker cells yet? Let us know your impressions. I have not tried them yet and calling for a demo soon. I always try before I buy and keep items that show marked improvement in my system. I never buy things just to have them like others may think. I have tried many other products and nothing is as good as the Synergistic equipment in my system. If I would find another product better, I would own it. ;-)

Hi Flanner2010, Did you try comparing them connected to the Apex speaker cables and the Galileo Basik speaker cables that are included for free? What were the results? That goes the same for the Apex interconnects plus cells Vs. the Galileo Basik interconnect plus cells.
Thanks,
Joe

I currently have on demo a set of Synergistic Research Galileo universal speaker cells. I installed the cells with the included Galileo Basik speaker cables to compare my current speaker cables the Apex. Initial impressions are good. A lot more detail is present with a blacker background and deeper soundstage compared to the Apex SC. The midrange is not as holographic as the Apex speaker cables and the frequency extremes are missing a little bit. A step or two backwards but it has some qualities the Apex does not. Next I installed the Apex speaker cables with the universal cells. These blow away the Galileo Basik speaker cables and cells. All that was missing was now in place. All the holographic midrange that was missing is back. The high frequencies are more extended and much clearer. The soundstage is forward again with some instruments. Listening at lower levels is a complete joy as the details are all there. This alone is worth the price. These are not subtle changes in sound quality. I really am enjoying the speaker cells and possibly going to place an order soon. Next I'm going to going to demo the universal interconnects cells and report back.

KeithR, the used prices on Audiogon are really good discounts and if you dont like them they will be easy to sell since they are very popular.

You dont need the most expensive cables from Synergistic. Start at the Accelerator level for SC & I/C. And T series power cables. And demo them in your system. You will know if you like them or not.

Glory, The Accelerator is an excellent Pre to Amp cable. I tried both the PR and Accelerator in this position and in my system preferred the Accelerator. So you can always upgrade later... The PR had a different presentation and I picked my preference.

This thread is about Synergistic products, information and experiences. Let's please leave it at that... Thank you.

Bacardi, Synergistic no longer makes the Active Sterling X2, you will have to find used. Another option is the Galileo Basik Strings interconnects and speaker cables. They are non active are sound really nice. These are the cheapest now. Then up from that is the Magnetic Tricon then Accelerator. All depends on your budget and your equipment. As you know, these cables are system dependent.

Hasse,

Yes, the Accel and PR speaker cables are VERY different from each other. I preferred the PR speaker cables in my system. Later, since I could afford it, I tried the Apex and they were preferred over all the other others. All the Tesla cables are different. They must all be tried and the ones you prefer you keep. It is not always the most expensive. This is same for the power cables and sub woofer cables. Get a great dealer like The Cable Company to send you all off them so you can pick and choose. I had so much fun with the experience. ENJOY! ;-)

Hi Hasse, yes, with some equipment they are too revealing. My next choice would be, if the PR is too much for your taste, is to try the Acoustic Reference line. The AR is more detailed than the Accel but offers a nice (not overly) warm midrange and bass. These cables balance each other out to create a sound stage that you prefer to have in your system.

Try Accel or PR IC on Amp to pre and Acoustic Reference or Accel on source to Pre. Also, mix in Apex.

Hi Hasse, in your last post you asked about my comment "the Accel and PR speaker cables are VERY different from each other. I preferred the PR speaker cables in my system." That comment was about the speaker cables and NOT the interconnects. The Accel and PR interconnects are different from the speaker cable line even though they have the same name. They are made with different materials and only possess some similarities/traits.

An upgrade for you would be to try a set of Acoustic Reference interconnects from source to amp. Going to the PR might be too much sparkle in my opinion. Or even better, I would keep the Accel and try the Galileo Universal interconnect cell. That will prob be your best option. The best place for the PR interconnects is between Preamp and Amp. The best way is to demo both cables and make your decision on your own testing in your own system.

The PR soundstage is bigger and more pin point. But not as forgiving as the Accel. Tons of resolution and more separation of instruments. They are leaner in the bass only by a little bit and somewhat in the midrange but very noticeable. More on the cool neutral side. The highs are much more extended and more revealing. The Accels are a good for regular equipment. The PR speaker cables are reference class. Add a universal speaker cell to the Accel and that will raise it and surpass the PR speaker cables for sure. They will exhibit exactly as the reviews above and also in a recent thread. But will have all the traits of the Accels. Worth an audition!

Hi Glory, I suggest you contact The Cable Company and get a demo set and compair/see for yourself. You will need to determine the best combination for your system. The cells do greatly increase performance of any cable.

Suteetat, Give the Holograms more time. I went from T3 to Holograms and when they broke in they bettered the T3 in deep controlled detailed bass and highs were transparent and acurate. Just to confirm this I recently pulled the Hologram A for a spare T3 and went back to the Hologram H. No contest. The Hologram A was leaps better in my system.

Give them a week of constant burn in and report back. These cables need proper break-in....Enjoy! Joe

Bacardi, The concept for the Powercell 4 is for an amplifier not in reach of another Powercell in the system or for a small system. Ted currently recommends getting a QLS-6 or QLS-9 powered by a T2 for the active shields as the best option. Let’s see what Synergistic has up its sleeves after RMAF! ;-)

To anyone that seen the Synergistic Research room at RMAF, please report in on what exactly you saw and heard. Maybe a little preview/review. Also, can you tell us what other rooms were using Synergistic products that were not related to Synergistic to show off their products.

Ted, if you like to explain all your new products or list what's new, that would be most welcome.

Thanks, Joe

Here is a link from RMAF:

http://www.theaudiobeat.com/rmaf2010/rmaf2010_tablog_synergistic_research.htm

I talked to Ted and he commented that the current Galileo cells being sold are the latest versions and there will be an option to purchase black circuits for them. I called The Cable Company and they are getting me two sets to try on my speaker and interconnect cells shortly. I'm also going to try a new Teslaplex SE outlet at the wall and the Basik Precision AC power cord on my HT system.

I installed new speaker cables and interconnects into my system. It's the Synergistic Research NEW Galileo universal speaker cells and interconnect cells. I installed the cells using the included Galileo Basik speaker cables and interconnects. Initial gains in a blacker background and even more separations of instruments, better low level listening because of the gain in resolution. There is a lot more detail and realness to the sound, instruments sound like the real thing and the soundstage was made wider and deeper. The midrange is not as holographic when compared to my previous Apex speaker cables but they have the same frequency extremes. I repeat, listening at lower levels is a complete joy as the details are all there. This alone is worth the price. The result of adding these cells to my system are not subtle changes in sound quality. The interconnect cells are a must companion to the speaker cells this increases system performance times two. The interconnect cells are so accurate and the tone is spot on for all brass instruments. These are keepers. I will soon experiment the cells with other Synergistic products. Probably when the new stuff comes out soon. These are a must try for anyone with their current cables even if they don't have any other Synergistic products.

Yo2tup, Yes, the Galileo MPC is a must for the Powercell. It’s the first spot Ted recommends you put a Galileo MPC if you just have one.