Subwoofers - Final Thoughts with Martin Logan ESL 13A

Dear @cundare2   : Thank's to post about the Perlisten and yes the manufacturer took care in its design and build quality level and according that design this subwoofer is a good unit.

However and always exist those " but " because in audio nothing is perfect.

The review and real time measurements that Audiolics made it showed that the reviewer never listened the Velodyne HGS 15 or 18 or even the 12 models where all those came with treated paper/pulp woofer material ( superior woofer material that any today one in that specific woofer designs. ) and not only that but he never measured the ( even today Velodyne DD models ) subwoofers with so low THD as the Velodyne units: 0.5% at below 20hz that's outperformed only by the 60K+ Magico unit ( o.4% ) that by " coincidence " uses treated paper for the woofers.

R.

>The review and real time measurements that Audiolics made it showed that the reviewer never listened the Velodyne HGS 15 or 18 or even the 12 models where all those came with treated paper/pulp woofer material

@rauliruegas

Uh, yeah, maybe, whatever, but so what? I’m not arguing with you, but I don’t get your point. Far from me to defend a second-tier online resource like Audioholics, but when has any reviewer measured every single offering on the market that shares a product class with a PUT? (Spoiler: It’s an impossible standard.) So why would the failure to do so automatically cast aspersions on what a reviewer hears?

For example, you claim that the Velodyne is surpassed only by the Magico model. That’s quite an assertion, so was the source for that statement derived from a reviewer that compared measurements & subjective SQ of the entire Perlisten, Velodyne, and Magico product lines? And, for that matter, of every other sub that might compete with those products?

Again, not trying to start a debate that nobody can win, but unless you can point to a credible head-to-head comparison between the products you’re talking about, I don’t find your comments persuasive. Nothing personal.

PS -- since the OP has stated that the subs you & I mentioned will not be on his short list, I'm not sure why we're even wasting time discussing Perlisten or Velodyne at this point.

@cundare2   : elodyne not only was measured in real time once but several times and in the other side and due that I listened at least 2 different Magico speaker  models I trust in what Magico says.

But, your last answer to me is ok, no problem at all. Merry Christmas.

R.