Sub s for Dali Megaline system


I am interested in a subwoofer system (1 or 2) for my two channel room. It consists of the Dali Megaline III speakers driven by McIntosh electronics--C1000C 3 piece preamp and 2 sets of MC501 monoblocks. My listening tastes vary widely and includes classic/orchestral, classic rock/pop/r&b, and specific female vocalists. I am strongly considering a pair of Jl Audio Fathom 212's (the Gothams seem way too big). I'd appreciate any input. Ray.
rros05666
Acoustat6, The Torus is -3db@20hz. It's flat at 25hz. I've had the Torus, pairs of JL audio's, Rel's and Martin Logans all in my setup. I didn't buy the Torus because I couldn't justify the cost of a pair of them in my almost full range system. They go plenty low if you listen to music which doesn't contain a lot of organ or you are doubling for HT. Qualitatively they were the best and I wouldn't hesitate to buy them if it were for 2 channel only and I had a lot of money that my wife didn't have better use for. - Jim
Aldavis said, "The Torus is -3db@20hz. It's flat at 25hz."

I have not seen that spec anywhere. It is not on their website that I have seen. Correct me if I am wrong. And for $6000 it cant reach 20 hz....?

Bob
Actually if you want to "really" take it to the max,there is the Eminent Techology TRW-17!!

An experienced audio friend had this demoed for him,and was flabbergasted!!

This "is" truly a serious design,but requires a commitment from the hobbyist....as in re-doing some vent work in the room/house.

It is reviewed on the "IAR" web-site,where it is proclaimed "the only subwoofer".

Looks serious,but I have not heard it and never will.I've got alot of experience with REL's better offerings and do think they work well.

The room size,and what the hobbyist realistically expects(aside from the financial considerations)will dictate the ultimate success.

Good luck....you already have a great speaker-:)
"Aldavis said, "The Torus is -3db@20hz. It's flat at 25hz."

I have not seen that spec anywhere. It is not on their website that I have seen. Correct me if I am wrong. And for $6000 it cant reach 20 hz....?"

I asked that a few days ago and apparently Aldavis is having a hard time finding this also! So he keeps guessing.

Bob
Well, aldavis was working and unable to respond. 24 hours in a hospital over Thanksgiving makes me grumpy so I will try to repond as kindly as possible. Instead of "guessing" I actually measured the response in my room in which I also measured Rel stadium, Jl 113 and 112, Martin Logan depth. This is obviously not an anechoic measurement but it did allow me to compare output "head to head" and have a relatively informed opinion on the subject. Of these the 113 goes the lowest. Now, with regard to price, as I stated, I didn't buy the Torus because of it. That said QUALITATIVELY to me it was clearly the best and this quality costs money. You could cheaply produce a sub with a lower f3 but would this make it "better". The higher you crossover the more quality matters. If you set the lowpass filter to roll off at 34 HZ(-3db) like me the difference is negligable. The torus is for a niche market - rich people obssesed with tonal accuracy who do not listen to a lot of organ music or synthesized bass lines which dominate the music. I object to people who state as a fact what they can not possibly know - anothers intentions. If you would like to check out a more " unbiased" source check out the AVS thread on Torus + Magico minis. One of the participants uses an RTA to measure the output with and without the Torus. The results are shown on the screen. No company b.s. no reviewer b.s. and no aldavis b.s. just the facts. I haven't seen it in over a year and don't remember the exact results. I'm too tired to look it up now. Peace - jim