Sonus Faber Cremona/JL F112 VS Sonus Faber Elipsa

I think the original Cremona without a sub sounds better than the Elipsa. For me, the original Cremona has the traditional full, round SF sound (even though some say it is colored) whereas the Elipsa has the new flatter, more detailed sound. Really depends on what style you like.

I currently have Cremona and love the Strad so was very ready to upgrade to the Elipsa, thinking it was a scaled down Strad. But with the new sound, I just kept my original Cremona.

I cannot compare the Cremona M with a sub and the Elipsa, since I do not like the sound of either. Lots of people like the new sound. Maybe they can comment.

I just added a JL audio Fathum F112 sub. to the Cremona's and they sound great. I have the crossover set for 40 hz so the sub. only adds what the Cremona's are not capable of producing and it is so far the best upgrade to my system. The other components in my stereo are: Mcintosh MC501 x 2 mono amps., Mctinosh C220 pre amp., Mcintosh MCD500 cdp/dac, Sonos music server going into the MCD500 digital input. I was thinking about upgrading to the Elipsa before I added this sub. but now I am not so sure.

I agree with Dtc.
Was disappointed with Elipsa, Cremona M, Guarneri Memento.
If a box speaker than let it have soul.
The original Cremona has beautiful full bodied mid range.
The bass is thunderous, no need for a sub. If anything it needs fine tuning in the room to not dominate the sound and start muffling the mid range.

Just my opinion.

I just ordered a pair of ELipsa's. Should have them next week and will report back

I have had the SF Elipsa's in my home for about 5 days now. My initial impression is that the imaging is better than the SF Cremona's, the sound stage is wider and more 3D. The bass is better at lower volumes. When listening to Drums 1 and 2 from Sheffield labs the illusion of a drumer in the room with you feels so real . The midrange and treble is different, I am not sure I like it more since I am used to the warmth of my Cremona's which I had for 1 1/2 years. Certain vocals such as Joni Mitchel with her alto voice can sound a little bit piercing to the ear however this may just be that she sounds that way in real life as well. From the album Clouds, track- Both sides now you would swear she is in the room with you. Other vocals come across very pleasing. On the other hand these speakers seem to pull more detail out of a recording and have a brighter flavor. The Elipsa's love to play string instruments as the Cremona's did such as guitar, violin and string bass. I find that when listening to jazz I become immersed in what I am hearing. I think for the first time I could see myself buying more classical music as well. These speakers fill the room with symphonic music and really let you feel and appreciate the strong dynamics; in the past I thought of classical music as something to fall asleep to, not anymore. Rock music, my favorite genre is fantastic. From Led Zepplin to the Beatles I am enjoying what I hear. I highly recommend the Beatles remastered music stereo version, it is fun to listen to; on the Elipsa for example the track Michelle sounds fantastic; I never appreciated the bass in this song before. I could go on with other examples of tracks which have impressed me, suffice it to say that I made a good decision.