Review: Eggleston Works Andra mkII Speaker


Category: Speakers

The purpose of this review is to comment on EW's Andra II upgrade. There were several thorough reviews of the Andra in 1996 and 1997, and Paul Bolin just did a very thorough (and from what I've heard, completely accurate) review of the Andra II's in the November 2002 Stereophile. But while he reported that EW had a program to upgrade the Andra to Andra II for $2750 plus shipping, he didn't say anything about the differences between the two. And they are enormous.

The original Andras, which I lived with for more than two years after buying them used, were wonderful speakers, but not perfect. At roughly $15,000, they could compete with the Revel Salons and B & W Nautilus 801's (B & W's top speaker then) on some bases, but not others. Their strongest points were that, on the one hand, a stereo pair projected a simply enormous soundfront, had dead stable imaging, and the strongest center image I had heard--no wandering or split soloists with these babies--and, on the other, they had a small footprint, were attractive but not intrusive in an R2D2 way, and--critically for me in a New York apartment--were designed to be positioned back against the wall. The reviews in 1996 and 1997 suggested 10 inches. I found 20-24 better, but compare that to comparable speakers, which require 4-6 feet! The Andras' main flaw, as far as I was concerned, was that they were a bit thin in the lower midrange/upper midbass range (not the low bass--how much low bass do you want in a New York apartment?)--and a bit forward at the upper midrange/high frequency crossover. (Enter the Purist Dominus.) Also, the image height was a bit low, because the speaker was small, and the tweeter height around three feet from the floor. Still superb, still very transparent--but not perfect. (What is?)

A word about the upgrade. It took about 5-6 weeks from my initial call to EW to final delivery, but that also included shipping me empty cartons for the Andras. Of those 5-6 weeks, shipper delays probably took up half the time. Total shipping costs, three ways, were a little under $600, to New York, where the shipping companies make a delivery of heavy items a day at Jurassic Park. The people at EW were pleasant, efficient, and knew what they were doing. The speakers which came back were immaculate (all dings gone), beautifully finished, and as far as I'm concerned, beautiful. The extra 7 inch height makes them more graceful, and they fit in better with my Salamander cabinets, but they do demand more attention. No one walks into my living room (23 by 13.5 by 9, open to dining area on left) without noticing them any more.

If you want an Andra with more bass, forget it--this is a totally different speaker. Sure, it has more bass, a prodigious amount, in fact. And probably because the speaker is now 7 inches taller, the image height is no longer anything you even notice, any more than you notice it at Carnegie Hall. Which brings us to the real point--you really do not notice anything particular at all. The overall sense is simply of natural, accurate sound, the way it sounds from my 8th row center seat at Carnegie Hall--not, of course, in degree, but in kind. Low level detail is just there; loud passages simply happen. No strain. No distractions. To speak audiophile-ese--the speakers are far more transparent from top to bottom, image extraordinarily well, are as smooth up and down the spectrum as anything I have ever heard, and are absolutely eerie on low level detail. Turning the volume down further than I have ever comfortably done (and bearing in mind that they are far more efficient than the Andras were), the detail is still there in quiet passages, and loud ones lose no transparency, which they did on the Andras. Blast the system, and you are in hog heaven until the police come.

This brings up my last point. I have always used rear speakers, with a rebuilt 80's ambiance unit (but without the front channels going through it). This opens up the hall sound, creates a fuller and richer listening space, and compensates for the artificialities of stereo sound without subjecting me to gimmicky surround sound where some engineer wants to demonstrate how creative he can be. The Andras, like every other speaker I have owned, profitted from this. My point is, that when I settled down to listen to the Andra II's, I kept marvelling at the way they filled the room. After two hours, I realized that while my rear channel amp was on, the ambiance unit was not. The rear speakers were off, but I hadn't even noticed.

My last word on the speaker conversion itself: compared to what I have put into this system elsewhere, the Andra II conversion at $3300 (including shipping), is such an extraordinary value it makes virtually every other expenditure I have ever done seem ridiculously extravagant. If you have Andras, do it! If you don't, they're around used. If you are contemplating $20,000 (gag) for new speakers, you have to hear these. (From what I've heard at dealers, and other people's homes, these can stand up to the Revels and B & W's and just about anything else in that range.)

Final piece of information: my listening is almost exclusively classical, and is LP, CD and SACD. I have thrown everything from the Solti Ring to Moravec's Chopin at them, and am simply overwhelmed. If you need to know how they rock, you're on your own.

Associated gear
SME 20 turntable, SME 5 arm. Koetsu Rosewood Signature, Classe Omega SACD, dCS Purcell and Elgar, Rowland Synergy IIi preamp, Classe CAM-350's, Lamm LP2 phono amp,Burmester line conditioner, Purist Dominus cables, rear channels: Sony 505ES ambiance unit, NAD C370 amp, Egglestonworks Isabel speakers

Similar products
Andras, B & W Signature 800's, Revel Salons, Dynaudios, Wilson Watt/Puppy 6
mgottlieb
Mgottlieb,
Thanks for the excellent review. I am considering Kharma midi Grandes to mate with Atma-sphere MA-2.2's in a 23 X 13 room with high valuted ceilings and wonder whether you compared the Andras to the Kharmas? (I hope it's yes)
System: KV-50; ML ref 32 preamp; Dominus i/cs.
Thanks.
Tonet you are talking about decency, I dont remember you
having one, did you change already? I doubt it.Its
Paul statement to me, we are not even referring to your
system,we are talking about Krell in general,and you
being a lunatic psychopath,full of ego,You are not the
one who has the right to talk about decency,you dont
have integrity at all, You made all the excuses when
you and Toni blew my Harman Kardon amp,remember that?
So you will not pay me $500, you even use your wife
as excuse?Be a man,You also borrows equipment
for 3 months then claim you dont like it? Is that decent?
Ricardo instructed his worker that you pay whole
amount before you can borrow, thats a shame you know?
Is that decent?How about selling the Andra to Toni for
less price, then the next day, you want my Logan center
channel,begging me to buy it,You think I am stupid to
sell it to you, after all you treated me?Is this decent
Mr Andaleon?When I borrow you 80 pieces of cds, how long
before you return them? months?I found out later you do use them to promote, t your business, IS THIS DECENT?
mr ANDALEON? So I guess I have to stop here, the statement
above are more than enough to tell people,you dont have
decency,I will reserve some for now my fingers are
getting numb.Meet me Face me face. If you want ,dont be a
coward.We dont live too far.
Jayctoy,

Fo every line item above there is a powerful, truthful retort! But as adviced by people you know too, why stoop and bother?

To all,

My apologies for causing a a distraction on a beautiful review of a wonderful speaker.
Well after more than a month of wait and a few preparatory reps of squatts in the gym, I got them back in place.

You are very right Mgottlieb!

The Andra II is a totally different speaker and the most bang for the buck (I spent $3450.00 with shipping) I have spent in audio. You can easily blow that amount away in cables and tweaks and would not bring the impact the upgrade brings.

Ahh, the mid's are much more right and bass has definitely more authority!

I remember talking to Sarah Brightman backstage after her concert here in Chicago in February 2004. Playing her music reminds of that proximity. Goosebumps boys! Goosebumps!!!!

If you own the Andra, you owe it to yourself to explore this "ultimate tweak".

Thanks to Audio-buff for the invaluable help in positioning these speakers.
i have upgraded andras (1-2). they look a little ugly, and the build quality is not as good as the wilson's that sit down at the local shop. i have compared the andras to watt puppys, maxx's, grand slamms, theils, jm lab, sonus faber (extremas), b&w. haven't heard kharmas, or avalons (heard the ascents a long long time ago). conclusion- the andra's sound (MUCH) more like REAL MUSIC. they image well, but they are not as good as wilsons in that regard. SURE, i would rather have my egglestons "hot rodded" with a more handsome finish, better looking carpet spikes, nice burled walnut, whatever. maybe the cabinets could have thicker walls/even more bracing. but, just as they are, they sound absolutely wonderful, period exclamation point.
only my brother's sonus faber extremas are as good, and guess why (same tweeter/super duper cabinets). - my not so humble opinion(s).ps- it pains me to see andra's going for $6k used. also pass aleph amps going cheap too (they sound just as good as the halcro's i just heard the other day- and the halcros sound damn good).