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Request advice-need "brighter" speakers than Totem Hawks

Hi All-
Love the community here; first time poster.
My gear:
i have a pair of Totem Hawks, driven by Sim Audio W-5 amp and P-5 pre. I listen primarily to Redbook CDs via a Marantz SA8005. Cables are all Audience AU24SE. I listen both through a modded Eastern Electric DAC (op amp upgraded, tube removed) and direct from CDP to preamp (teensy sound difference between DAC/no DAC, if any). My medium sized room is pretty dead sonically (carpet, textile window coverings).

My Issue:
The high frequencies are uncrisp, rolled off severely, muted, and just lacking generally, especially on contemporary works (jazz, rock). I don’t hear cymbals, hi-hats, or rich, crisp snare drums (yeah, I’m a drummer). Listening to my favorite disks is a deeply disappointing experience, Though classical sounds ok to fine. I am thinking that I need brighter speakers than the Hawks (though there are numerous folks who extoll Sim Audio plus Totem speakers, something is not right. I do have a bit of hi-freq. hearing loss from playing percussion for over 40 years (amateur), but I’ve heard a number of less expensive systems that sound better to me. My first thought is to go for a used pair of B&Ws (CM5s?) or Vandersteens (assuming good WAF on the latter) to swap out for the Hawks. I’m on a budget, but am not above selling some of the current gear to pay for the right equipment.

I would love love to hear some suggestions or alternate diagnoses/ideas. I am not limiting myself to speakers; I’ve tried a bunch of different cables to no good effect. Analysis Plus silver cables, for example, were a disaster with this gear, for example, FYI. Thanks in advance for any sage thoughts you choose to offer. -Bruce


bheiman
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soundsrealaudio
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bheiman

Thinking about your situation and taking into account your hearing loss. It seems like so many times when people are looking for a sub woofer, meaning more bass, what they are really missing is a great midrange. I am wondering if you are seeking highs because your midrange isn't moving you emotionally. Perhaps your system isn't engaging. 

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oblgny
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I had a pair of Hawks myself and while I found the mids and highs to be commendable it was the bass that I found to be somewhat "rounder" than I appreciate.  Mind you this is in comparison to Thiel CS3.5's which some people regard as being too bright. 

If if you can find a pair of CS2.3 or higher methinks your issue with the Hawks will be remedied. Used, they're bargains of the highest order, too.  Good luck!
robertbrown
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Sorry to say the hawks use different drivers than Forests Winds and Sharmans I have all three use them in surround and don't loss the high's

Import to match gear to speakers also

zamdrang
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Hi, it sounds like you already made a choice but I wanted to chime in on the Dali Royal Tower you asked about.   I have had mine for about 9 years, they still put a smile on my face. 

They are absolutely beautiful with acoustic instruments and vocals,  excellent imaging and sound staging.  Transparent is a good word, warm is another.  The silk doom tweeter sold me immediately compared to many metal dome loaded speakers I heard.   I am constantly amazed about the amount and quality of the sound for such a small little speaker.   To this day I have moments they still raise my eyebrows and make me shake my head at how good they sound.  Frequently I will have experiences where the presence of the voice coming from the room with the stereo is so vivid it's startling.  I half expect to walk in the room and see someone sitting there.   Maybe many speakers do this I don't know, but I can't see why anyone would need anything more if that is the type of listening you do.   I listened to a lot of speakers at every price point at the Rocky Mountain Audio Show around the same time.  For the price it was a no brainer. Wonderful speaker.  

 I am a bit of a rocker, and if I had to nit pick, it would be the mid range punch of electric guitars.   The low end frequency response is conservative, some may feel the need for a sub, I have an EQ on my amp and can dial in all the bass I need.   Even though they are not ideal for most of my music collection, they are so pleasing otherwise I will never part with them.   

I run them with a Rega Apollo and Mcintosh MA6900 integrated.  

Good luck in your journey!  
bheiman OP
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Zamdrang:
Thank you for weighing in on the Dali Royal Towers. I was initially engaged by them because of their highly refined look, having never had a chance to listen to them. I have also had difficulty finding reviews online because they are getting pretty "vintage" as far as their age goes. I really appreciate your thoughts, and indeed, may act on them. 

Update for others following this thread: 
Having switched to near field listening while doing tests, and using only my left (undamaged) ear consistently from speaker-to-speaker, I am perceiving that the highs are coming through, and maybe
  1. I am not listening to good sources (music CDs and CDP), which accounts for a lack of clear highs,
  2. The combination of Simaudio Moon P-5/W-5 and Hawks may be over-softening my high frequencies too much for my particular needs,
  3. Swapping in the Creek Evo 100a has some effect in the direction I need, but having to crank the treble all the way (or nearly so) doesn't seem to be a very "audiophile" solution, and I still miss some highs. 
This has led me to contemplate the following possible actions (I am thinking to implement 1 or 2 of these ideas, not all three--costs are a factor. :

(a) switching to different speakers (as noted above the Dalis come to mind, or the  Thiels which a number of you kind people have mentioned as likely able to meet my needs,

(b) switching to a brighter amp/pre-amp combo. My experience with the Creek has led me to believe that the integrated amp market has come a very long way in a good direction since I switched to all separates, 

(c) getting into a better source (a disc player with music server capabilities, for example. Any suggestions along those lines would be most welcome. I am a total noob (as my kids say) in this realm of gear. I am especially interested in hearing about gear that delivers top caliber sound quality without breaking the bank. I am aware that music servers tend to be expensive.  I have a dedicated MacBook Air (2011 vintage) available, if that helps. 

Thanks again to all who have advised me on this issue. I hope to hear from you on these questions. 
Best,
-Bruce

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