Rap music on high-end speakers

Amens Bryans Brother. I must say I think most of the light hearted jibes snouldn't be taken too seriously. Albert I got a big chuckle out of yours and can only say I wish I had come up with it myself. You have a very twisted sense of humor:^)

Tru it is through you and your generation that the continuation of 2-channel music reproduction rests. In truth hip-hop and rap music is not just limited to the States, it is a world-wide phenomenon that isn't going away soon whether we Boomers like it or not. I mean they have Rap music in Iran!! It has its own validity and speaks to a generation even though the parents of that generation in general don't like the message.

Truth be told regardless of how much I loved the Doors as a kid, my Dad never did. He thought Jim Morrison was a maniac. Well coming from his generation in retrospect I see his point, Jim WAS a maniac with a message of drugs, sex and party-on as much as the very thoughtful lyrics he put to song. It was much easier for me to enjoy Dad's music, excepting for maybe Larry Welk, pleaseeee someone tell me the appeal of that music? But Tru I love Funk and lets face it Rap is the contemporary progression of Rythm Blues and Funk and if you like it, I can dig it!

Honestly Tru, I wouldn't know what to tell you about a system for RAP. I would guess a good dynamic system with tight bass and as noted, a nice clear midrange would do just fine. There are many including NHT 2.5i to the 3.3, very dynamic with excellent bass and a very good midrange. A powerful ss amp, maybe a Sunfire works very well with the NHTs. Just pass the word on to your buddies that think that 2k watts with 18" subs in a trunk makes for good bass.

Why do some fools complain about the type of music that folks choose to listen to.I have a high end set up and I listen to salsa,latin jazz,70Sr&b,even some hip-hop and rap.Sure you would need large woofers,but not Cerwin Vega..Sound like crap.I have B&Ws 802 series 3 and they can handle it.All because folks buy high end does it necessarly mean that we listen to only classical or jazz,I dont think so.To those boneheads who chosse to insult the person who posted this thread,youre nothing but a bunch of closed minded nuts.To those who defended the author of this thread,right on.everybodys entitled to listen to what they choose to and if they spend the loot who is one to dictate to another whta they should or not listen to.I have a D.L.G. CD that have heavy bass lines and it's latin rap,and it sounds great in the setup i have.

Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions. I didnt think this thread would be such a big hit. I was never mad. I know comments or jokes like some of the ones here get posted. Some of you seem so serious about it, it doesnt seem like a joke. I have listened to many many speakers. I think my platinums are very good, but like all of you out there, I want a change. Any more comments?

TRU as an audiophile who listens to everything from classical to death metal (excluding country)I would suggest B&W n 801s. However, if it were me I would elect to trade the paradigm sub in on a velodyne hgs 18 you will need it to get the very bottom notes. Just my two cents.

happy listening,

Damon

I think that this thread has turned into a PERFECT example of just how "important" preconcieved ideas, prejudice and bias are in society. Is that bad ? I don't think so. Why should audio be any different than the rest of the various subjects that we could discuss ???

As such, anyone that thinks that they are not prejudiced or completely free of bias are either liars or fooling themselves. Those that worry more about being "politically correct" rather than speaking their mind and being forthright in their opinions are those that lack self confidence or convictions in their ideas. You can call it "tact" or "being understanding", i'll simply call it "lacking balls". As a case in point, would you rather have someone smile and nod in agreement while inside they look down their nose and think "what a jerk" or would you rather know exactly where you stand in their eyes to begin with ??? I think that answer is obvious.While there are ways to get the message across without ripping someone's heart out, the message remains the same: "I don't like or agree with that".

As to why people would have the ideas that they do about "rap", "hip-hop", etc..., take a look around. Most of the time that you hear this music or see the participants, the sound is HORRIBLE while the listeners and creators try to portray themselves as being "ghetto gangsters". If you doubt this, take a look at the "kicker boxes" that are sold to the public to recreate this music. Big woofers in untuned boxes and Piezo tweeters. The more "lo-fi" it sounds ( boomier, undefined, lacking detail, smeared and splashy, etc..), the greater the chance of the "car stereo enthusiast" installing it in his "pimp mobile". In plain English, what is "bad" to those that know better becomes "good" to those that don't know any better.

Since many of the participants here may have never listened to various artists that produce "music" of the above mentioned genres in detail, they base their opinions on what they have experienced. Is this wrong ? Hell no. You and i do it EVERY day, dozens of times a day. Whether or not it is a "good" opinion or "bad" opinion simply has to do with what side of the fence you stand on with that specific subject. Were they wrong to share their point of view. Definitely not. This IS a discussion forum. Could they have done it with a little more respect ? Quite possibly.

The funny thing is that the hi-fi world used to be divided between those that listened to Classical music and those that listened to "contemporary music" i.e. rock, blues, jazz, etc... As "music" has spread out even more and has such a wide interpretation as to what qualifies as such nowadays, i find it amusing that the "rockers" and the "old fogey's" have something in common. That would be their general lack of respect and disdain for "hip hop" and "rap". As such, nothing has changed. The shoe has just been moved to a different foot. The same thing will happen with the next generation and so on and so forth.

So long as there is freedom of choice, differences of opinions, personal taste, etc... to deal with, we will always have an "us vs them" to deal with, regardless of the subject. Of course, whether you are with "us" or choose to side with "them" can vary from subject to subject or incident to incident. That's what makes us all individuals with our own ideas. That is also why nobody can tell you what is "right" and what is "wrong", what is "good" what is "bad", etc.... These are all things that rely on one's personal perspective and preferences.

All i can say is that we should ALL be glad that we have the right to choose what WE like as individuals and that we can voice our differences of opinions without fear of reprisal. It is probably only after we've lost these "rights" that everone will agree on something. We should've been thankful for what we HAD. Sean
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