Passive or Active Sub???


Hi,

I need help in deciding which way to go. I have a 6 channel amp (Elektra Reference) delivering 180 WPC and I am not using the sixth channel so I thought about getting a quality passive sub and drive it with the Amp. My room is small-medium sized (about 17 X 13) and I am interested in a very musical and quick sub. I don’t want to shake the house I just want something very tight and punchy for both 2 channel and HT. My gear includes JMLab electra (920, 905 and cc-30) and the processor is RDC-7 (Integra).

I would greatly appreciate any input or suggestions. Should I go passive? If so, which sub is recommended? (I guess I need a 10' or 12'). Price range is up to 1000$.

Feel free to suggest any ideas/ recommendations.

Thank you.
raananlerner
Thank you guys. I have decided to go active. I would love to try the bag-end but it seems that an 18 sub will be just too big for my small room. I am currently thinking about the Velodyne HGS10. Anyone has any experience with this sub?

Thanks for the help.
A word of caution about any 10 inch subwoofer driver. In almost every case, a 10 inch driver cannot properly reproduce the two lowest octaves which is the entire purpose of a real subwoofer's existence. They end up distorting, popping, compressing, and just plain poopin' out. Therefore, some companies add a second 10 inch driver as in the case of NHT's Sub Two and then they call it a tight musical sub. I've heard the Sub Two in two different home applications, one home theater, one music with the JMLab Electra's. The sub's retail for about $1200, but after hearing them and trying to configure them for optimal bass reproduction, I wouldn't pay more than $100 for it. Just boomy and they do nothing more than what a cheap full range speaker already does except that now the entire room is filled with a boomy sound that has no musical definition whatsoever.

The cabinet size of a 10 inch sub is still three-quarters the size of an 18 inch sub. I believe the very smallest size one should consider should be 12 inches and even then unless it's the top of the line(i.e. Aerial's SW12), you will still experience much the same cheap affects I mentioned above.

Might I suggest you locate a used Bag End Infra-Sub on audiogon, purchase, and try for a few weeks? If it's too big or you simply don't like it, then you should have no trouble selling it for what you paid as long as you got a decent deal for about $900 or so.

IMO -John
John,

I appreciate the info and thanks very much for the detailed answer. I think what your suggestion makes sense. While I am not a bass freak I would like to enjoy the deepest bass in HT (or music). Your recommendation also makes sense since the Jmlab 920.1 have a 10’ woofer and thus maybe a 10’ sub would not go lower anyway. I guess that I could try to find one of these (the price seems decent) on audiogon. I just need to see one to make sure that I (i.e., my wife...) can live with the size.

Thanks for the help. If I buy one I’ll let you know what I think about it.

Raanan
You're welcome. You will discover that there is so much musical info way down under, whether classical, pop, etc., that you'll be amazed how rich and full the sound in your room with be if you get the sub-sonics right. It just so happens that there are two Bag End Infrasub's for sale on audiogon right now.

Yes, I would be very interesed to hear your response after you've demo'ed such product.

I have Aerial Acoustic 10T's full range speakers with 10.7" woofers that reproduce the bass wonderfully down to about 25Hz. Even so, I would not want to give up my 18inch sub because of what it does for reproducing the bottom octaves. My sub is as much a part of my system as any other component.

Please keep me posted.

-John