Opinions on best integrated under 10k?


Father Christmas has been early and left me a very sizable bonus check!
So time to spend it before the other half can....

Looking at building another system but thinking of just a very high power integrated amp.
Wish list...
200w or more.
Balanced inputs
Digital inputs
Phono inputs

A quick look shows items like McIntosh ma7900 and Mark levinson ml585 which both seem to fulfill all or the majority of my wants.
Sure there are others.
So thoughts and any current or previous owners of suitable candidates please chime in
Thank you in advance
uberwaltz

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That review is interesting but does not really shed any light on if the dig out COULD be successful in feeding the dig in of a headphone amp
Unfortunately this earlier model does not have a headphone jack.
Now it does also have a coax digital out but looks like that is meant for a DAC loop so not sure if that would work to take an output to a headphone amp that had coax digital input like the Aune or SOtM or similar.
And before I wasted time and money on one would like to see if anybody knows for sure
Well I am stumped on the Hegel for now on how to get headphone output.
I saw it had rca preouts so assumed to be able to connect a headphone amp to these outputs and should be good to go.
Yes it works BUT music has to be playing through the speakers as well, which sort of defeats the point of headphones!
When I hit mute on the amp it also mutes the pre outputs as well, something according to the sparse manual it is supposed to do ( yes should have read up first!).
This seems to have been the only way I can see to have got headphone output out of the Hegel but cannot now be used.
Any other Hegel integrated owners have a solution to get headphone output?
The Hegel arrived this morning and I wasted no time getting it set up and into play.
Not sure if not been used much previously because the sq has improved by the hour( been on about 9 hours now).
It compares very favourably with my Exogal/BAT combo in most areas except possibly imaging is not quite as well defined and the soundstage not as expansive.
Plenty of horsepower and bottom end is tight and nicely defined, not a case of one note bass.
The onboard DAC appears to be of fairly high quality, Tidal streamed through sounds very respectable.
All in all I am very happy with my last 2017 present to myself
Some great suggestions but I already pulled the trigger on a Hegel H300 from the classifieds here on Agon.

The better half had made it clear that a turntable was NOT making an appearance in this system so phono input became irrelevant. 
Decided to save some dollars and have purchased a Hegel H300 for the princely sum of $2000 right here on agon.
If i get 90% of the ml585 for 25% cost I am happy considering its role.
It already has the WAF from showing her the pix so that is half the battle.
Will report back on actual sq once it is here.
Thank you for all your suggestions!
@jjue 

As far as prices on Hegel I had come to same conclusion and was part of reason for asking if anybody had any real life experience of them.

Just been looking over Hegel h300 and 360, both of which seem to have had good reviews and both have decent onboard dac, no phono but that was bottom of my wish list anyway.
Anybody here had actual experience of either of these?
@twoleftears 
200w is not an imperative, but was part of the "wish list"

@david_ten 

You could be right and that's how my preliminary research narrowed it down to the two main protagonists I mentioned, ml585 and ma7900.

It just may come down to which I get the best deal on for those pair.
BUT I also know I do not know every option out there and always welcome valuable input especially from actual owners or prior owners.
While I do not disagree that desiring an onboard DAC may compromise my sq a little do not forget this is for a second system.
Appearances with no extra boxes and cables is also high on the radar for the WAF !
My main system in,my room I can do as I like, this application is high visibility so her who must be obeyed has given her thoughts on the matter.....
Possibly I could add a DAC and hide it as you say....food for thought.
Main listening will be from 2 sources, Tidal streaming and Amazon Prime streaming with possibly an analog source if I can wrangle it!
Speakers are Wilson witt series1
Not the most low power friendly units out there.....

On one aspect I am going to be firm, it will need to have digital inputs which does rule out a lot of aforementioned items I know. Yes I can add an extra DAC I know but if going for an integrated it may as well have everything..... well integrated!
Phono stage not so important as have a good phono stage I can use.
@jjue 
Many of those fine amps will be WAY out of my range, they are at the pinnacle of integrated amp engineering.
While 10k is not insubstantial it will bring me high level not the lofty heights!
@wolf_garcia 
No, would never suggest you shut the hell up!

@jjue 
Thank you for the link, very interesting reading!