Would all of the people who have replied to this post please accept my apology. I DID NOT intend for my remarks to be directed at ANYONE in particular. After reading this again, I can easily see how it looks aimed. My verbal (written?) diatribe was a result of spending MANY hours on forum sites such as this one, SMR, AudioAsylum, et al. and reading over and over people bashing ALL receivers as the lousy poor mans toy. Comments like ANY seperate is better than the best receiver. When you ask the specifically which models the are comparing, they respond that they have not auditioned any of the current top of the line receivers.
I guess my level of frustration was reached and I vented.
Again, I apologize for my rude venting. And to the poster with the porche, sorry if I offended you, I thought I was making the point that ALL porches are Not created equal.
Wish you all the best. Gerry Conway